Breaking Bad the other night.

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Re: Breaking Bad the other night.

Post by Ian » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:45 pm

Maybe I should watch the pilot. :ask:

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Re: Breaking Bad the other night.

Post by orpheus » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:09 am

I think it was the best, most intriguing, well-acted, well-scripted, creative television series since Twin Peaks. Utterly brilliant.


Edit: the last episode was great, yes. But the 3rd-to-last ("Ozymandias")...Jesus. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite so harrowing on TV. Superb, but very, very, very hard to watch.
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Re: Breaking Bad the other night.

Post by FBM » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:31 am

orpheus wrote:I think it was the best, most intriguing, well-acted, well-scripted, creative television series since Twin Peaks. Utterly brilliant.


Edit: the last episode was great, yes. But the 3rd-to-last ("Ozymandias")...Jesus. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite so harrowing on TV. Superb, but very, very, very hard to watch.
And absolutely impossible not to watch. Once you're into it, I mean. ;)
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Re: Breaking Bad the other night.

Post by orpheus » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:02 pm

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orpheus wrote:I think it was the best, most intriguing, well-acted, well-scripted, creative television series since Twin Peaks. Utterly brilliant.


Edit: the last episode was great, yes. But the 3rd-to-last ("Ozymandias")...Jesus. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite so harrowing on TV. Superb, but very, very, very hard to watch.
And absolutely impossible not to watch. Once you're into it, I mean. ;)
Oh, for sure, yes. Rather like not being able to stop seeing Walter White as the hero, no matter how bad he's become over time. Once your sympathy for his character is solidified early on, it's very hard to shift that feeling.

I don't think that's an accident. Vince Gilligan et al have done some very fine work here.

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Post by Audley Strange » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:34 pm

I was rooting for him until the incident with Jane in season 2, then I realised he was a total fucking monster. It all went downhill from there.
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Re: Breaking Bad the other night.

Post by Tyrannical » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:43 pm

How I'd have solved everything before the SHTF.

Jesse, how about taking that money and retiring to a nice Caribbean island paradise? Beautiful weather, beautiful beaches, beautiful women, and sit on the beach and sip margaritas.
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Re: Breaking Bad the other night.

Post by Audley Strange » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:59 pm

Tyrannical wrote:How I'd have solved everything before the SHTF.

Jesse, how about taking that money and retiring to a nice Caribbean island paradise? Beautiful weather, beautiful beaches, beautiful women, and sit on the beach and sip margaritas.
Just stick to Racism, that would have been a shit show.
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Re: Breaking Bad the other night.

Post by Animavore » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:40 pm

Wasn't happy about Walt telling yer woman at the end he'd poisoned her. I'm mean we'd already gathered that. I don't think it needed to be spelt out for us.

Also, from what I can gather if she went to hospital she might pull through. Albeit with a few conditions.
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Post by Animavore » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:40 pm

Audley Strange wrote:I was rooting for him until the incident with Jane in season 2, then I realised he was a total fucking monster. It all went downhill from there.
:this: That was a really shitty thing to do.
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Re: Breaking Bad the other night.

Post by FBM » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:45 am

orpheus wrote:
FBM wrote:
orpheus wrote:I think it was the best, most intriguing, well-acted, well-scripted, creative television series since Twin Peaks. Utterly brilliant.


Edit: the last episode was great, yes. But the 3rd-to-last ("Ozymandias")...Jesus. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite so harrowing on TV. Superb, but very, very, very hard to watch.
And absolutely impossible not to watch. Once you're into it, I mean. ;)
Oh, for sure, yes. Rather like not being able to stop seeing Walter White as the hero, no matter how bad he's become over time. Once your sympathy for his character is solidified early on, it's very hard to shift that feeling.

I don't think that's an accident. Vince Gilligan et al have done some very fine work here.
Yup. I still don't see Walt as a total monster. For me, his transformation and the mundane nature of what caused it suggest that maybe we all - or many of us, at least - have similar potential.

(It also suggests something philosophical about the nature of identity, but that's for another (sub)forum. Don't want to be accused of bringing philosophy into a normal thread.)
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Re: Breaking Bad the other night.

Post by Tyrannical » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:44 am

Audley Strange wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:How I'd have solved everything before the SHTF.

Jesse, how about taking that money and retiring to a nice Caribbean island paradise? Beautiful weather, beautiful beaches, beautiful women, and sit on the beach and sip margaritas.
Just stick to Racism, that would have been a shit show.
Sheesh, doesn't anyone like a happy ending any more?

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