Fast Food Worker Strikes!
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Since other people's tax dollars are already propping up Seth's lifestyle in more ways than he's aware of, maybe he shouldn't be so damn niggardly about his tax dollars propping up other welfare systems?
He's already milking taxpayers for way more than he puts in. How is he any different than some AFDC recipient in Atlanta?
I wonder if any of his corporeal hereditaments were once free homestead lands given to his ancestors by the government?
He's already milking taxpayers for way more than he puts in. How is he any different than some AFDC recipient in Atlanta?
I wonder if any of his corporeal hereditaments were once free homestead lands given to his ancestors by the government?
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Care to show me exactly which tax dollars are "propping up" my lifestyle? You haven't identified one yet.piscator wrote:Since other people's tax dollars are already propping up Seth's lifestyle in more ways than he's aware of, maybe he shouldn't be so damn niggardly about his tax dollars propping up other welfare systems?
He's already milking taxpayers for way more than he puts in. How is he any different than some AFDC recipient in Atlanta?
I wonder if any of his corporeal hereditaments were once free homestead lands given to his ancestors by the government?
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I already have. But I'll show more examples of the shortsightedness that forms the basis of the shit-tier "Classical Liberal" worldview that leads to statements like,
1. How long has your land been in your family?
2. What forage seeds do you use?
Seth wrote:I only owe for what I use by way of public resources and absolutely nothing else!
1. How long has your land been in your family?
2. What forage seeds do you use?
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None. No, I take it back, I once bought a 50 pound sack of dryland pasture mix (mostly fescue) to reseed an area I had to sterilize to get rid of thistle, which I paid for in full, with cash, including sales tax. That had to be about 1980 I think.piscator wrote:OK. What forage seeds do you use?
Other than that, no seed at all, just naturally-occuring, self-replenishing pasture grass.
Oh, and do your own homework from now on.
"Seth is Grandmaster Zen Troll who trains his victims to troll themselves every time they think of him" Robert_S
"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
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"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
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Seth wrote:None. No, I take it back, I once bought a 50 pound sack of dryland pasture mix (mostly fescue) to reseed an area I had to sterilize to get rid of thistle, which I paid for in full, with cash, including sales tax. That had to be about 1980 I think.piscator wrote:OK. What forage seeds do you use?
Other than that, no seed at all, just naturally-occuring, self-replenishing pasture grass.
You expect us to believe that someone supposedly in the cattle business, who essentially gets paid by the pound of product he produces, pays no mind to what his cattle eat? That he just fences them up on some low productivity Texas prairie full of weeds, and gets what he gets come sale time?
You're really making my job easy here...

I'll just ask simple questions. Your inability or unwillingness to answer them will speak volumes on the Libertarian Starve-in-a-ditch worldview.Oh, and do your own homework from now on.

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Warren Dew wrote:Good to know you actually eat lots of beef, and are just pretending to eat fish to win an argument.piscator wrote:5. Just stop with the bullshit and contrived just-so stories. You don't eat un-aged grass fed beef.
If you really believed in Supply and Demand, you'd be arguing that the price of a Big Mac was set by market demand, and a hike in the minimum wage would not affect McDonald's prices, because the market has already set them.

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This is correct, although. The price of a Big Mac is set by the supply and demand relationship. Or, however, the supply will be set by the demand/price relationship. That is, if McDonalds' is forced to raise its price because overhead (fixed and variable costs) approach the price set by supply and demand, then McDonald's will stay in business by raising prices, but will sell fewer burgers in order to maintain profit margin (all else remaining the same, of course).piscator wrote:Warren Dew wrote:Good to know you actually eat lots of beef, and are just pretending to eat fish to win an argument.piscator wrote:5. Just stop with the bullshit and contrived just-so stories. You don't eat un-aged grass fed beef.
If you really believed in Supply and Demand, you'd be arguing that the price of a Big Mac was set by market demand, and a hike in the minimum wage would not affect McDonald's prices, because the market has already set them.
McDonalds makes a slim profit off each Big Mac. About 15 cents per burger. If you raise the cost of a Big Mac 68 cents, then the profit margin is gone unless you raise the price. McDonald's couldn't sell at its current price because it would lose money more than 50 cents a burger. So, it would have to raise the price from say $3.99 to $4.70. That would put downward pressure on demand. What would happen to sales and such depends on where on the demand/supply curves we really are and how elastic or inelastic demand is, etc., but the argument that raising the minimum wage to $15 is de minimus or irrelevant is plainly bollocks.
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Who said I paid no mind?piscator wrote:Seth wrote:None. No, I take it back, I once bought a 50 pound sack of dryland pasture mix (mostly fescue) to reseed an area I had to sterilize to get rid of thistle, which I paid for in full, with cash, including sales tax. That had to be about 1980 I think.piscator wrote:OK. What forage seeds do you use?
Other than that, no seed at all, just naturally-occuring, self-replenishing pasture grass.
You expect us to believe that someone supposedly in the cattle business, who essentially gets paid by the pound of product he produces, pays no mind to what his cattle eat?
Why is it that you think I'm from Texas?That he just fences them up on some low productivity Texas prairie full of weeds, and gets what he gets come sale time?
What job is that? Proving that your head is firmly up your ass?You're really making my job easy here...![]()
You've done remarkably well at that.
Oh, and do your own homework from now on.
You can ask all you like, but when you make claims about my ranching practices you are the one who has to support those claims with credible evidence, which you have utterly failed to do. You can't even figure out what state I ranched in, so why would anything else you have to say be credible?I'll just ask simple questions. Your inability or unwillingness to answer them will speak volumes on the Libertarian Starve-in-a-ditch worldview.
"Seth is Grandmaster Zen Troll who trains his victims to troll themselves every time they think of him" Robert_S
"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
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"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
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The entire agriculture industry is basically the tax payer taking the risks and the private sector taking the profits. Capitalism and farming are contradictions in terms.
In general rural life costs the tax payer far more money to keep going compared to living in a city. Everything from post to electricity, roads , waste disposal you name it and it costs the general tax payer more to keep going
In general rural life costs the tax payer far more money to keep going compared to living in a city. Everything from post to electricity, roads , waste disposal you name it and it costs the general tax payer more to keep going
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Your first paragraph demonstrates why free market capitalism in farming is needed, not why it's a problem.MrJonno wrote:The entire agriculture industry is basically the tax payer taking the risks and the private sector taking the profits. Capitalism and farming are contradictions in terms.
In general rural life costs the tax payer far more money to keep going compared to living in a city. Everything from post to electricity, roads , waste disposal you name it and it costs the general tax payer more to keep going
Post is paid for by people who buy postage. Electricity is paid for by the user on a per watt basis. Roads in the US in rural towns are generally paid for at the County and town level. State highways are paid by the state, but tend to service many communities, and federal highways service many states.
Waste disposal is typically paid for on a private basis. Some cities have public trash collection. Towns usually have private trash collection.
Those things aren't "general taxpayer costs" here. Well, roads typically are, but as I said, county roads are county roads and county residents pay for them. State roads are state roads, and state residents pay for them. Federal highways are federal, so the federal taxpayer foots the bill.
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Coito ergo sum wrote:...
McDonalds makes a slim profit off each Big Mac. About 15 cents per burger...

Your data is woefully incorrect, CES. McDonald's sells Double Cheeseburgers for $0.99. Has for years.
For those who don't know, a $3.99 Big Mac uses the same 2x1.6 oz burger patties, cheese, onions, and pickles as the $0.99 Double Cheeseburger.
The only difference is the bun, the lettuce, and the ketchup/mayo Special Sauce of the BigMac vs ketchup and mustard on the Double Cheese. IOW, the Big Mac costs, tops, around $0.10 more to make than the Double Cheeseburger.
By CES's math, McDonald's loses $2.75 for every $0.99 Double Cheeseburger it sells.

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Ever hear the term "loss leader?"piscator wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:...
McDonalds makes a slim profit off each Big Mac. About 15 cents per burger...
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Your data is woefully incorrect, CES. McDonald's sells Double Cheeseburgers for $0.99. Has for years.
For those who don't know, a $3.99 Big Mac uses the same 2x1.6 oz burger patties, cheese, onions, and pickles as the $0.99 Double Cheeseburger.
The only difference is the bun, the lettuce, and the ketchup/mayo Special Sauce of the BigMac vs ketchup and mustard on the Double Cheese. IOW, the Big Mac costs, tops, around $0.10 more to make than the Double Cheeseburger.
By CES's math, McDonald's loses $2.75 for every $0.99 Double Cheeseburger it sells.
"Seth is Grandmaster Zen Troll who trains his victims to troll themselves every time they think of him" Robert_S
"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
© 2013/2014/2015/2016 Seth, all rights reserved. No reuse, republication, duplication, or derivative work is authorized.
"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
© 2013/2014/2015/2016 Seth, all rights reserved. No reuse, republication, duplication, or derivative work is authorized.
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You just did.Seth wrote:Who said I paid no mind?piscator wrote:Seth wrote:None. No, I take it back, I once bought a 50 pound sack of dryland pasture mix (mostly fescue) to reseed an area I had to sterilize to get rid of thistle, which I paid for in full, with cash, including sales tax. That had to be about 1980 I think.piscator wrote:OK. What forage seeds do you use?
Other than that, no seed at all, just naturally-occuring, self-replenishing pasture grass.
You expect us to believe that someone supposedly in the cattle business, who essentially gets paid by the pound of product he produces, pays no mind to what his cattle eat?
No supplemental feeding,
You might move them around, but you're just raising bottom-of-the-barrel stocker cows if you're not supplementing their feed or grazing them on intensively cultivated high protein grasses.just naturally-occuring, self-replenishing pasture grass
Moreover, even if you're running an uninspected Libertarian slaughter operation, all you're gonna get is "Utility Grade" beef, the kind that ends up in a can of Hormel chili.
Goddamn son, your knowledge of the cattle business wouldn't get you out of a middle school 4H program...

Because that's what you told me in another thread, inre "Hog hunting". Remember?Why is it that you think I'm from Texas?That he just fences them up on some low productivity Texas prairie full of weeds, and gets what he gets come sale time?
I don't give a ratz ass where you're from though. I know you're not grazing your cows on naturally occurring alfalfa and gramma and New Zealand rye grass. Maybe you just sprinkle them with Libertarian Magic Dust?

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Seth wrote:Ever hear the term "loss leader?"piscator wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:...
McDonalds makes a slim profit off each Big Mac. About 15 cents per burger...
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Your data is woefully incorrect, CES. McDonald's sells Double Cheeseburgers for $0.99. Has for years.
For those who don't know, a $3.99 Big Mac uses the same 2x1.6 oz burger patties, cheese, onions, and pickles as the $0.99 Double Cheeseburger.
The only difference is the bun, the lettuce, and the ketchup/mayo Special Sauce of the BigMac vs ketchup and mustard on the Double Cheese. IOW, the Big Mac costs, tops, around $0.10 more to make than the Double Cheeseburger.
By CES's math, McDonald's loses $2.75 for every $0.99 Double Cheeseburger it sells.
Ever hear the term, "Bullshit!"?
CES's source has fucked him a good'un.

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Maybe its different in the US but currently it costs the same amount of money to post a letter to someone who lives alone up a mountain or lives in the middle of a city (tax payer subsidised)Post is paid for by people who buy postage. Electricity is paid for by the user on a per watt basis. Roads in the US in rural towns are generally paid for at the County and town level. State highways are paid by the state, but tend to service many communities, and federal highways service many states.
Waste disposal is typically paid for on a private basis. Some cities have public trash collection. Towns usually have private trash collection.
Those things aren't "general taxpayer costs" here. Well, roads typically are, but as I said, county roads are county roads and county residents pay for them. State roads are state roads, and state residents pay for them. Federal highways are federal, so the federal taxpayer foots the bill.
Your waste disposal is done by local government and again costs the same regardless of where you live within a council area. Usually for electricity you do pay the same regardless of where you live even through it blatantly costs more to get electricity to some areas and the national grid was at least in the past a public organisation.
Basically the more rural you are the more important the state is in keeping you alive
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