Who watches the Watchmen?

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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by MedGen » Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:21 pm

There are no piles of awesome high enough to adequately describe this movie.

I came out of that cinema thinking "fuck". That's it. You have to watch it to understand. I've not read the comic, but I will be now I think.
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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:08 am

It was to have been my tomorrow night's project - but now something very mammalian has come up and so it may have to wait a day or two. I am gagging at the bit though!
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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by Don't Panic » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:40 pm

Watched it earlier, all I can say is Wow. Must go see it in the cinema. :D
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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by Fanny » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:10 pm

Yeah it was pretty decent.

Rorschach was played very well. Casting was superb.

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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by Trolldor » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:59 pm

Marvin wrote:Watched it earlier, all I can say is Wow. Must go see it in the cinema. :D
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It's an absolute must! If you don't see it in the cinema it just won't be the same.
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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by Don't Panic » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:23 pm

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Marvin wrote:Watched it earlier, all I can say is Wow. Must go see it in the cinema. :D
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It's an absolute must! If you don't see it in the cinema it just won't be the same.
I'll get around to it, was bored this morning so I figured I'd kill an hour or two by watching it. Quality wasn't great though, hence wanting to go see it on the silver screen.
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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by The Curious Squid » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:26 pm

Watched it in the cinema twice now and would happily go back again.

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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by FedUpWithFaith » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:59 pm

I'm looking forward to this movie. Read opinions all over the map and I'm re-reading the book first. I really wanted to see it with my older son who is a Watchmen fanatic - has been since he read it at 13 (now 19). But we didn't have time before I took him back to school.

My younger son, 17, is also a fan of the book and just saw it with his friends. He was a little disappointed and didn't think it was great movie by any means - though he enjoyed it. He felt there were certain things that the book took more seriously than the movie and his expectations there let him down. But of course, his expectations are based on his interpretation of this very broad tapestry of a story in the first place. My son isn't fully cooked yet. The book is something I think you could read 50 times and always find something new and significant. Great works of art to me are like multi-faceted gems holding a world inside based on the enterwining of human perspectives If the movie is like that - then I will be a big admirer.

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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by ficklefiend » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:07 am

I plan to see it tomorrow.

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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by Trolldor » Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:07 am

FedUpWithFaith wrote:I'm looking forward to this movie. Read opinions all over the map and I'm re-reading the book first. I really wanted to see it with my older son who is a Watchmen fanatic - has been since he read it at 13 (now 19). But we didn't have time before I took him back to school.

My younger son, 17, is also a fan of the book and just saw it with his friends. He was a little disappointed and didn't think it was great movie by any means - though he enjoyed it. He felt there were certain things that the book took more seriously than the movie and his expectations there let him down. But of course, his expectations are based on his interpretation of this very broad tapestry of a story in the first place. My son isn't fully cooked yet. The book is something I think you could read 50 times and always find something new and significant. Great works of art to me are like multi-faceted gems holding a world inside based on the enterwining of human perspectives If the movie is like that - then I will be a big admirer.

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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by Animavore » Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 am

I've been meaning to bother reading the GN for years and have never gotten around to it. Now the film is out I think I'll watch the film first then read the GN after because I want to be able to look at the movie in an unbiased way. Conspicuously my view on the book will not be tainted by the film.
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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by Pauline » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:24 pm

Just back from watching it.

I thought is was very clever, funny, with fab effects, blood, gore and sex. Oh yes and the odd super hero too (I was expecting Paco to turn up at any moment...).

And there's even a big blue willy for the girls.

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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by FedUpWithFaith » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:10 am

Saw Watchmen tonight with my wife, younger son and sister.

We all liked it. I'm would say I border on loving it but I need the movie to simmer a bit in my mind a few days first. I definitely like that this is the type of movie that invokes such thinking after one has seen it.

I could list many things I've seen written above I loved about the movie. So don't be too off-put that I'm just gonna list the criticisms right now. But they happen to be what stick in my mind.

First, I don't like the cartoony caricatures of Nixon, Agronsky, Koppel, Clift and others from real life. perhaps it was the best they could do but it came off stilted and phony and hurt the movie. Frank Langella's Nixon from Frost-Nixon would have been a big improvement. Fortunately, these are just side issues.

The movie telegraphed the Comedian's murderer way more than the novel, to the movie's detriment.

Rorshach's speech from the book on why he become his character was perhaps the most powerful speech in the book and I was sorry to see it absent.

Malin Akerman is a mediocre actress as Silk Spectre.

The movie's ending didn't work for me very well. That said, neither did the novel's. They're both filled with logical inconsistencies and BS. I won't argue why they don't work and spoil the book or the movie but i can say that if the characters in the end are as smart and prescient as they're supposed to be, they should realize its BS too. Neither one stands up to logical scrutiny as the long-term solutions they're supposed to be.

The effect of the music was spotty. I liked some of the homages to Apocalypse Now in the Vietnam scenes but many of the music selections didn't worked for me, such as Hendrix's "Watchtower" which i think was picked for it's name and not its sound - which didn't fit (it's one of my fav rock song's from all time though). If ever i saw a comic book movie that called for the dark scoring of a Bernard Herrmann, this was it. Unfortunately, he's been dead 33 years and nobody has replaced him..

I will end on one nice nuance I spotted that many of you might not be aware of. In the denouement of the movie, there is a pan from a TV showing a sequence from the credits of the original TV series "The Outer Limits". Many of you may not be aware but Alan Moore, who wrote Watchmen, rather ripped off his ending from an Outer Limits episode called "The Architects of Fear". I liked this subtle homage to the original ending. I appreciate little touches like that that add depth.

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Re: Who watches the Watchmen?

Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:52 pm

Just back from seeing it and I loved it.

Now I haven't read the book so I can't say anything about them comparatively.

I loved the dialogue which I presume is straight from the book. I loved picking out references (so I was never bored and always had to keep an eye on the screen). Rorshach may probably be the best superhero ever. It looked really cool and artsy. I loved the way the characters are mostly all messed in the head and the distinction between good and evil (defunct concepts to me now thanks to Nietzsce who incidentally is referenced in the film) are blurred.

I just loved it all round.

So at this point you may be wondering if I've any criticisms.

Ending was a little overboard but, only just.

Silk Spectre is shallow and pointless (so I guess a true depiction of a woman lol).

Some music was out of place.

That's about all I can think of at the mo'.

I think Alan Moore would be proud when he sees it on the sly. It's just a shame he's such an arrogant prick that he won't admit it.
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