Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

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Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:16 pm

I am starting a new thread series for the forum. It's called "Argue the Opposite" and I welcome anyone else to start a thread similar to this on other topics or questions.

The idea: The idea is to argue the opposite of the position you would normally take on an issue. That is, if you are normally atheistic, argue the theistic position. If you are normally a theist, then argue the atheist position.

The question for this thread:

Does a god or gods exist?


Purpose of "Argue the Opposite" is to challenge our own beliefs on various issues, and become more familiar with the arguments against our positions.

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Re: Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by klr » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:34 pm

I'm not really into being "Devil's Advocate", not even for the sake of it. I guess I just can't argue or construct arguments in favour of something that I don't believe in, because I would have already considered and rejected said arguments. This is not to say that I won't try to look for holes in something so that I can understand it better, or be more sure of it. But God ...
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Re: Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by Pappa » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:42 pm

Coito, could you please provide some evidence for the existence of god(s)?
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Re: Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by Rum » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:53 pm

It is impossible for there not to be a God. The proof? The universe is so fucking awesome!

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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:21 am

The opposite of my position is surely that ALL gods exist - as I currently hold that none of them do. That could get a tad crowded in Olympus. :tea:
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Re: Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by SteveB » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:38 am

I've mostly forgotten all the arguments for the existence of God and the corresponding rebuttals. I'm not a very good atheist.

Oh! There's that Prime Mover one. Yep, take that, atheists. 8-)
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Re: Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by rachelbean » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:07 am

I spent almost 30 years doing that with myself already. Ain't nobody got time for that.

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Re: Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by Pappa » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:14 am

Are we all expected to argue the opposite or just Coito? :ask:

Unless it's just Coito, there's not much argument going to get done.

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Re: Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by Svartalf » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:04 am

Rum wrote:It is impossible for there not to be a God. The proof? The universe is so fucking awesome!
Indeed, we live an a positive paradise, and human nature, since we are made in Its image, proves that it is perfect and benevolent.
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Re: Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by rachelbean » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:14 am

Rum wrote:It is impossible for there to be a God. The proof? The universe is so fucking awesome!
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Re: Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by Hermit » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:11 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:I am starting a new thread series for the forum. It's called "Argue the Opposite" and I welcome anyone else to start a thread similar to this on other topics or questions.

The idea: The idea is to argue the opposite of the position you would normally take on an issue. That is, if you are normally atheistic, argue the theistic position. If you are normally a theist, then argue the atheist position.
I'll sit this one out at least until our chief "contrarian" regales us with walls of words about the virtues and desirability of Marxism.
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Re: Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by Cormac » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:36 am

rachelbean wrote:I spent almost 30 years doing that with myself already. Ain't nobody got time for that.

...yeah, but what about belief in the existence of god...




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Re: Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by rachelbean » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:40 am

It prevented me from that too for far too long :lay:
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Re: Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by Cormac » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:13 pm

rachelbean wrote:It prevented me from that too for far too long :lay:
Yay! You can make up for lost time!

Hmmm. Friction is a bastard isn't it?
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Re: Argue the Opposite: Existence of God

Post by Audley Strange » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:02 pm

Of course gods exist. The main problem with the religious and with atheists is that they presume that existence pertains to the physical universe. Gods exist in the same way all fictional characters exist. Imagined constructs with motivations and personalities which we define for them.


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