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Har Har Har Global warming crap

Post by mistermack » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:45 pm

There is a program playing right now on BBC4 called the Arctic.
I suppose it was made a few years ago, because they just said that " some models project that the arctic will be COMPLETELY CLEAR OF ICE IN THE SUMMERS BY 2013 !!!!

So I looked up the current ice extent, for august 2013, and it's amazing ! There appears to be a bit left !

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Just an illustration of the bollocks that we have been fed over the last ten years.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:47 pm

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Post by laklak » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:50 pm

Just one G&T for every Chinaman and POOF, no more ice cap.
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Post by PsychoSerenity » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:01 pm

mistermack wrote:
Just an illustration of the bollocks that we have been fed over the last ten years.
[Disclaimer - if this is comes across like I think I know what I'm talking about, I want to make it clear that I don't. I'm just trying to get my thoughts down]

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Post by Blind groper » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:12 pm

The rate at which the Arctic ice is melting is a variable. This means some models will put it earlier, and some later. Big deal!

The important thing is that it is shrinking, and that is beyond debate, since records of the past 50 years are unambiguous.

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Post by mistermack » Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:30 am

Blind groper wrote:The rate at which the Arctic ice is melting is a variable. This means some models will put it earlier, and some later. Big deal!

The important thing is that it is shrinking, and that is beyond debate, since records of the past 50 years are unambiguous.
And it SHOULD be shrinking. We are at the warmest part of the natural interglacial cycle.
Without ANY man made carbon dioxide, the Arctic ice would be shrinking a little bit. And sure enough, it's shrinking a little bit. Add the energy absorbing effect of soot particles, and it's surprising it doesn't shrink more.
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Post by Seth » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:18 am

And it's been the shortest summer in recorded history in the arctic. Go figure.
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Post by Cormac » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:09 am

I haven't read anything yet that convinces me that our impact is more than an acceleration of the natural cycle.

Am I wrong?

At the same time, we have some scientists arguing that we're heading for another ice age. This is something I've been hearing since the 70's, on and off. Most recently a couple of weeks back.

When people say to me that the vast majority of scientists accept global warming, I find that to some extent convincing. However, there was a time when most scientists believed in phlogiston. Scientific orthodoxy has been overturned many times.

In general, I think we should limit or negate our environmental impact as much as possible, because it is, in my view, the ethical thing to do.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:36 am

mistermack wrote:There is a program playing right now on BBC4 called the Arctic.
I suppose it was made a few years ago, because they just said that " some models project that the arctic will be COMPLETELY CLEAR OF ICE IN THE SUMMERS BY 2013 !!!!

So I looked up the current ice extent, for august 2013, and it's amazing ! There appears to be a bit left !

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Just an illustration of the bollocks that we have been fed over the last ten years.
Therefore global warming is crap, and I am going to keep living my profligate energy intensive and wasteful lifestyle. Go you!
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:37 am

Cormac wrote:I haven't read anything yet that convinces me that our impact is more than an acceleration of the natural cycle.

Am I wrong?

At the same time, we have some scientists arguing that we're heading for another ice age. This is something I've been hearing since the 70's, on and off. Most recently a couple of weeks back.

When people say to me that the vast majority of scientists accept global warming, I find that to some extent convincing. However, there was a time when most scientists believed in phlogiston. Scientific orthodoxy has been overturned many times.
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Post by fishie » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:38 am

Cormac wrote:I haven't read anything yet that convinces me that our impact is more than an acceleration of the natural cycle.

Am I wrong?

At the same time, we have some scientists arguing that we're heading for another ice age. This is something I've been hearing since the 70's, on and off. Most recently a couple of weeks back.

When people say to me that the vast majority of scientists accept global warming, I find that to some extent convincing. However, there was a time when most scientists believed in phlogiston. Scientific orthodoxy has been overturned many times.

In general, I think we should limit or negate our environmental impact as much as possible, because it is, in my view, the ethical thing to do.
Ah but the really interesting question is does anyone give a flying fuck what you think? I wonder. I muse.

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Post by mistermack » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:59 am

Cormac wrote:I haven't read anything yet that convinces me that our impact is more than an acceleration of the natural cycle.

Am I wrong?

At the same time, we have some scientists arguing that we're heading for another ice age. This is something I've been hearing since the 70's, on and off. Most recently a couple of weeks back.

When people say to me that the vast majority of scientists accept global warming, I find that to some extent convincing. However, there was a time when most scientists believed in phlogiston. Scientific orthodoxy has been overturned many times.

In general, I think we should limit or negate our environmental impact as much as possible, because it is, in my view, the ethical thing to do.
The scientific consensus doesn't mean a thing. Sceptical climate scientists are virtually non-existent, because it is perfectly obvious to anyone from day one, that if you are openly sceptical, you will never get any work.
Those who are sceptical who have any sense will either keep their heads down, and draw their salaries, or migrate to different strands of science. It's a self-replicating consensus.

But global warming crap is great for climate scientists. They get a lot more money coming into the field, and they get a lot more attention.

As far as being ethical, the best thing would be to have fewer kids.
People who have a bunch of kids, and then get all conscientious make me laugh.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:01 am

The North Pole is currently in a lake.
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Post by mistermack » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:10 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:The North Pole is currently in a lake.
If it is, it's a lake surrounded by a million square miles of sea-ice.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

Anyway, it isn't :

http://news.discovery.com/earth/oceans/ ... 130801.htm
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Post by Tero » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:24 am

One summer is irrelevant. Take 30 years:
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