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Bollocks.Coito ergo sum wrote:It's the socialists who tend to say "this has nothing to do with me" -- "what do I care what happens to generations long after I'm gone..." -- interesting, that, eh?Clinton Huxley wrote:Socialist.Coito ergo sum wrote:It's not all about those of us who are breathing today.Clinton Huxley wrote:What's this "we"? We, as in us here, have no stake in this. We will all be dead before any of this stuff materialises.
Were I a socialist, that's what I'd be saying, too, most likely.
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I don't care about souls, but I do care that someone else has a chance to be born.rEvolutionist wrote:That's what being an atheist does to you. If I was a good Christian I'd care about all those unborn souls...Gawdzilla Sama wrote:That's very human of you.rEvolutionist wrote:Yeah. Even I don't give a fuck about anyone 100 years down the track from now..
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That makes no sense. There is no "someone" before a birth.
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Even if that person is future-hitler?!?Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I don't care about souls, but I do care that someone else has a chance to be born.rEvolutionist wrote:That's what being an atheist does to you. If I was a good Christian I'd care about all those unborn souls...Gawdzilla Sama wrote:That's very human of you.rEvolutionist wrote:Yeah. Even I don't give a fuck about anyone 100 years down the track from now..
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If there was only one person to be born in the future whether or not they were a proto-Hitler or not wouldn't matter. But if more than one person is born I have no problem with there being a variegated crop.Clinton Huxley wrote:Even if that person is future-hitler?!?
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Aren't you pro socialist? And didn't you just say you don't give a shit about people 100 years from now?rEvolutionist wrote:Bollocks.Coito ergo sum wrote:It's the socialists who tend to say "this has nothing to do with me" -- "what do I care what happens to generations long after I'm gone..." -- interesting, that, eh?Clinton Huxley wrote:Socialist.Coito ergo sum wrote:It's not all about those of us who are breathing today.Clinton Huxley wrote:What's this "we"? We, as in us here, have no stake in this. We will all be dead before any of this stuff materialises.
Were I a socialist, that's what I'd be saying, too, most likely.
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Private enterprise will build the space elevato?Coito ergo sum wrote:Space programs must saddle future generations with a massive tax burden?Clinton Huxley wrote:CES, saddling future generations with a massive tax burden. For shame.
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Know anything about Space-X?Clinton Huxley wrote:Private enterprise will build the space elevato?Coito ergo sum wrote:Space programs must saddle future generations with a massive tax burden?Clinton Huxley wrote:CES, saddling future generations with a massive tax burden. For shame.
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I do but orders of magnitude and all that. And how do you structure ownership of a space elevator? One company owns it and has a monopoly? The state owns it? If china has a space elevator, will Brazil have to build a bigger one? And by the time you have it, is it obsolete?Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Know anything about Space-X?Clinton Huxley wrote:Private enterprise will build the space elevato?Coito ergo sum wrote:Space programs must saddle future generations with a massive tax burden?Clinton Huxley wrote:CES, saddling future generations with a massive tax burden. For shame.
I'll be surprised if one ever actually is built.
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Well that's that then Jeeves, you're right and there's nothing else to be said about it. 
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Not necessarily and/or not exclusively.Clinton Huxley wrote:Private enterprise will build the space elevato?Coito ergo sum wrote:Space programs must saddle future generations with a massive tax burden?Clinton Huxley wrote:CES, saddling future generations with a massive tax burden. For shame.
But, public funding is not equivalent to saddling future generations with massive tax burden. One may fund things publicly in a why which does not massively burden future generations depending on the total amount that is spent.
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Well, that's hardly the spirit! Think of the Alamo.Sean Hayden wrote:Well that's that then Jeeves, you're right and there's nothing else to be said about it.
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Me too, but it never gets built if nobody tries. If somebody tries, it might.Clinton Huxley wrote: I'll be surprised if one ever actually is built.
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Now you're encouraging me to think more about it? I think you're stringing me along.
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