And some people are lower than others.Ayaan wrote:Some people are more susceptible than others.Svartalf wrote:Dunno, I've been pretty low for most of the last 2 decades, and religion never has been an answer to it.

And some people are lower than others.Ayaan wrote:Some people are more susceptible than others.Svartalf wrote:Dunno, I've been pretty low for most of the last 2 decades, and religion never has been an answer to it.
Did you have to kill people for a living?Svartalf wrote:Getting dumped, and working at a job I hated got me REALLY low
Nope. A normal christian church in Canada, by the looks of it.Audley Strange wrote:That is one of the most alarming and insidious texts on dominance and indoctrination I've seen in a long while. Is this from an offshoot of The Dharma Initiative?
I'm not surprised, but perhaps more shocked that something I would once have considered a sensible route for my church to take can now sound so sinister, especially when written by a middle-aged lady who'd never harm a fly.Rum wrote:I'm surprised by the level of surprise over this issue. It is the logical conclusion for people of faith. The 'truth' should of course be introduced to children as early as possible. Their souls are jolly important after all!
Silly? Sorry - was making a general point. I was in that category too but many - many - aren't.rachelbean wrote:That's a silly thing to say considering many of us were religious and did just that.
Like I was indocrtinated from the age of about 3 and got books about Xian myths at the same time I got ones about Greek myths as soon as I could read?Rum wrote:I'm surprised by the level of surprise over this issue. It is the logical conclusion for people of faith. The 'truth' should of course be introduced to children as early as possible. Their souls are jolly important after all!
Exactly what I was thinking out as a reply, to clarify what I said above. I know that I was rational about most things even when I was a strong believer. I obviously had the ability to compartmentalize that area. In the end (armed with knowledge that I sought out myself, believing it wouldn't affect my faith) I wasn't able to rationalize the beliefs anymore. Even more than that they increasingly grew bizarre for me to even comprehend as a thought process. Because of that it's sometimes hard for me to understand how people like my father, whose intelligence and cognitive thinking skills really can't be questioned, maintains his beliefs. I get frustrated because to me those beliefs just feel like part of being a child, but I know it's not that simple.Rum wrote:I've been thinking about this while out with the dogs walking.
It seems to me that people of faith aren't intrinsically or essentially irrational, though some (many?) are. It would seem to me upon reflection that many of them and no doubt non-believers like most of us, are quite capable of holding two or more contradictory models in our heads and using them as and when we need to. When I was briefly a Christian it was at a time when I was also super rational. I was into science fiction and the visions of the universe that offered and had a pretty wide ranging sort of imagination.
One of the reasons I left the faith was that ultimately that rationality won the day, but there was a period where both 'systems' resided quite happily, though sometimes not so happily, inside my head.
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