Is Zimmerman guilty? Should he be convicted of something?

George Zimmerman - guilty, innocent?

1. He is guilty of murder.
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20%
2. He is guilty of manslaughter.
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7%
3. He is not technically guilty of murder or manslaughter but he should be convicted anyway because what he did was wrong.
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No votes
4. He is not guilty of either murder or manslaughter and should not be convicted.
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67%
5. None of the above/other
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7%
 
Total votes: 15

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Re: Is Zimmerman guilty? Should he be convicted of somethin

Post by Collector1337 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:50 pm

Tero wrote:Next, I'll give those with an unlicensed gun a 10 year prison sentence when arrested.
Heil Hitler Tero!

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Re: Is Zimmerman guilty? Should he be convicted of somethin

Post by Jason » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:55 pm

He's worse than Hitler!

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Post by laklak » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:09 pm

Făkünamę wrote: I sentence him to no less than 10 years on 4chan
Dude, that is like way totally cruel and unusual punishment.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Is Zimmerman guilty? Should he be convicted of somethin

Post by Tero » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:17 pm

There will be a 100% sales tax on new guns, to fund the new federal gun database.

It's like booze, bad things will happen with guns. Fact: guns are involved in all gun violence.

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Re: Is Zimmerman guilty? Should he be convicted of somethin

Post by Collector1337 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:22 pm

Tero wrote:There will be a 100% sales tax on new guns, to fund the new federal gun database.

It's like booze, bad things will happen with guns. Fact: guns are involved in all gun violence.
You're a troll.

Fact: Booze is involved with all booze violence. Better ban booze/require a license to buy booze. Every beer and bottle will be serialized. That will totally stop human nature from happening. :fp:
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Post by Tero » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:31 pm

There just aren't enough evil doers out there to justify you stalking and interrogating every hooded (or the comical pants sown to the hips) teen out there.

When the gun comes out, the communicating stops. Either he attacks you or you shoot him. It's cave man days again.

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Post by laklak » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:35 pm

It's not an either/or case. If he attacks me, I shoot him. If he doesn't attack me, I don't shoot him. It's pretty simple, actually.
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Re: Is Zimmerman guilty? Should he be convicted of somethin

Post by Collector1337 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:43 pm

Tero wrote:There just aren't enough evil doers out there to justify you stalking and interrogating every hooded (or the comical pants sown to the hips) teen out there.

When the gun comes out, the communicating stops. Either he attacks you or you shoot him. It's cave man days again.
Stalking and interrogating? You mean asking a strange person what they are doing there, in a gated community no less.

I think the the communicating stopped when Zimmerman was sucker punched and then had his head bashed into a sidewalk.
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Post by Tero » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:54 pm

Maybe. But there is no evidence of when the gun entered the picture. Maybe just a bulge under the clothing.

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Re: Is Zimmerman guilty? Should he be convicted of somethin

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:55 pm

Tero wrote:Maybe. But there is no evidence of when the gun entered the picture. Maybe just a bulge under the clothing.
So? What is the import of that? Why do you bring it up? Is it a salient thing? Does it mean something? Does it require or allow an important conclusion?

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Re: Is Zimmerman guilty? Should he be convicted of somethin

Post by macdoc » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:56 pm

snort - you mean walking back to the place he was staying in said gated community ......warped and whacky right wingdings....

at least get the fucking simple facts straight before eructating your shite...
Feb 26: Trayvon Martin was with his father watching the NBA All-Star game in the home of a family friend. The family friend, identified as the Trayvon’s father’s girlfriend, lived in a gated community in Sanford, Florida. Martin left the gated community to purchase a pack of Skittles and an Arizona Iced Tea. When he returned, Martin was followed by a 28-year old resident of the community, George Zimmerman.
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Post by Collector1337 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:06 pm

macdoc wrote:snort - you mean walking back to the place he was staying in said gated community ......warped and whacky right wingdings....

at least get the fucking simple facts straight before eructating your shite...
Feb 26: Trayvon Martin was with his father watching the NBA All-Star game in the home of a family friend. The family friend, identified as the Trayvon’s father’s girlfriend, lived in a gated community in Sanford, Florida. Martin left the gated community to purchase a pack of Skittles and an Arizona Iced Tea. When he returned, Martin was followed by a 28-year old resident of the community, George Zimmerman.
And if he would have just said that, instead of attacking someone who has done nothing to him, he'd still be alive today.

When you instigate violence, you should accept all responsibility and consequence for doing so, up to and including death.
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Re: Is Zimmerman guilty? Should he be convicted of somethin

Post by Tero » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:20 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Tero wrote:Maybe. But there is no evidence of when the gun entered the picture. Maybe just a bulge under the clothing.
So? What is the import of that? Why do you bring it up? Is it a salient thing? Does it mean something? Does it require or allow an important conclusion?
We have a whole thread on this. An armed stranger is stalking you. You finally come face to face. What do you do? Ask to see their gun before you punch them out?

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Re: Is Zimmerman guilty? Should he be convicted of somethin

Post by Tero » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:23 pm

Macdoc, the dad was no longer at home when TM went to get the Skittles for the other teen still in the apartment.

At the shooting time, dad and the apt renter were at dinner in Orlando.

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Re: Is Zimmerman guilty? Should he be convicted of somethin

Post by macdoc » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:35 pm

who cares - he was not in the community to commit any crime
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