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Should vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:47 am

Undead, uncontrollable lust for pieces of the living, hard to kill.
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Re: SHould vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by Audley Strange » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:54 am

Yes.
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Re: Should vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by rainbow » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:04 am

No. Their bits don't fall off.
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Re: Should vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:06 am

rainbow wrote:No. Their bits don't fall off.
That's what makes them a distinct subset, right?
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Re: Should vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by PsychoSerenity » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:09 am

No. They are both subsets of undead.
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Re: Should vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by FBM » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:09 am

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PsychoSerenity wrote:No. They are both subsets of undead.
Why not the other way around?
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Re: Should vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by Audley Strange » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:12 am

Their bits do fall off if they do not keep up with the feeding. What makes them distinct is a high level of consciousness.

The problem is one of category, dependent on which species of zombie or vampire one is comparing. If it is a parasitic causation, then it may well be that there are different breeds of that parasite or that in certain cases it does not properly adhere to the victim, leaving it not in full control. However if one takes into consideration environmental zombification or supernatural cause then we could be talking about a variety of different causal factors.
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Re: Should vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by Thinking Aloud » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:13 am

No. Vampires are way cooler than zombies. Zombies are what you get if you reheat a dead vampire for too long in the microwave. Rubbery and tasteless.

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Re: Should vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:18 am

PsychoSerenity wrote:No. They are both subsets of undead.
You can have mobile and immobile undead. Would that be the broadest category?

And Imhotep, was he a zombie?

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Re: Should vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by PsychoSerenity » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:24 am

I think mummies would normally be a subset of zombies, but Imhotep was a special case with a whole load of more powerful magic involved, a bit like Jesus.
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Re: Should vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:25 am

PsychoSerenity wrote:I think mummies would normally be a subset of zombies, but Imhotep was a special case with a whole load of more powerful magic involved, a bit like Jesus.
The cladistics of zombies, more complicated than I had realized.

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Re: Should vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by klr » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:50 am

We need a few Venn diagrams here to help resolve the confusion.
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Re: Should vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:51 am

4D Venn diagrams.
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Re: Should vampires be considered a subset of zombies?

Post by Rum » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:07 pm

The provenance of vampires seems pretty clear to me as well as the general public and the world of entertainment, whereas the origin and cause of zombiness seems a bit uncertain. Viruses ffs??

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