Project glass - new and cool or Big Brotherish?
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A novel way of suicide? Take the audience with you? 
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Can't wait for the Aplus version with realtime augmented reality trigger warnings
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Imagine a world where certain people or machines/software are able to monitor your thoughts and moods...Coito ergo sum wrote:It will, I'm sure, be made practical. it, and the same thing for contact lenses, will certainly become a reality. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/0 ... y-glasses/
Eventually, an implant will be possible which will be connected to the nervous system.
It's coming, and nothing will stop it.
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It will happen. But, when that happens, you won't be "you" in the sense of a discrete individual.JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:Imagine a world where certain people or machines/software are able to monitor your thoughts and moods...Coito ergo sum wrote:It will, I'm sure, be made practical. it, and the same thing for contact lenses, will certainly become a reality. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/0 ... y-glasses/
Eventually, an implant will be possible which will be connected to the nervous system.
It's coming, and nothing will stop it.
If we don't destroy ourselves first, we will be able to expand into the solar system and galaxy --- we won't go as the same kind of humans as we are now, though. We'll be interconnected -- Borg-like.
There is no reason that eventually criminality will be eliminated by manipulating the structure of the brain. We can put ourselves back in the Garden of Eden....
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Hubris...heard it all before. Every technical innovation promises heaven and delivers hell or very close. You want the future? Imagine a virtual boot stamping in 3d technicolor on everything you hold dear forever and ever.Coito ergo sum wrote:It will happen. But, when that happens, you won't be "you" in the sense of a discrete individual.JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:Imagine a world where certain people or machines/software are able to monitor your thoughts and moods...Coito ergo sum wrote:It will, I'm sure, be made practical. it, and the same thing for contact lenses, will certainly become a reality. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/0 ... y-glasses/
Eventually, an implant will be possible which will be connected to the nervous system.
It's coming, and nothing will stop it.
If we don't destroy ourselves first, we will be able to expand into the solar system and galaxy --- we won't go as the same kind of humans as we are now, though. We'll be interconnected -- Borg-like.
There is no reason that eventually criminality will be eliminated by manipulating the structure of the brain. We can put ourselves back in the Garden of Eden....
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Imagine a world where you can buy a product and not actually own it.
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Well, this is manifestly untrue. Technological innovation has brought warmth in winter, coolness in summer, plentiful food to billions, and a standard of living that dwarfs even that of royalty up through the 19th century.Scrumple wrote:
Hubris...heard it all before. Every technical innovation promises heaven and delivers hell or very close. You want the future? Imagine a virtual boot stamping in 3d technicolor on everything you hold dear forever and ever.
Man imposes a boot, but technical innovations have brought tremendous benefits to mankind. It has also brought a fair bit of horror, but to say "every" technical innovations delivers hell.... if that's true, then you need to put your money where your mouth is and go live in a cave and forage for your food.
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Yes, some technical fixes have delivered a short-term benefit but now we have climate change, a massive unmanageable population with a unsustainable ageing demographic, a standard of living built on workfare, bonded slavelabour, a debt crisis around the world, deadly diseases incubating in overcrowded ghetto's around the world...a empire built on sand. I'd be safer in a cave and foraging.Coito ergo sum wrote:Well, this is manifestly untrue. Technological innovation has brought warmth in winter, coolness in summer, plentiful food to billions, and a standard of living that dwarfs even that of royalty up through the 19th century.Scrumple wrote:
Hubris...heard it all before. Every technical innovation promises heaven and delivers hell or very close. You want the future? Imagine a virtual boot stamping in 3d technicolor on everything you hold dear forever and ever.
Man imposes a boot, but technical innovations have brought tremendous benefits to mankind. It has also brought a fair bit of horror, but to say "every" technical innovations delivers hell.... if that's true, then you need to put your money where your mouth is and go live in a cave and forage for your food.
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This isn't the first time for any of those things.. and we are still here. 
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Not "short term" benefits -- long term benefits. Well, depending on what you consider long and short term.
If you live in a cave foraging, you'd likely be dead by 35 years old.
it is only technological innovation which can save mankind from relative near term extinction (on the order of 1,000 odd years or less,or so, roughly). No matter what, humanity's days have far fewer numbers without technology than with it. We need humanity off this rock, so all our eggs are not in one basket. Failing that -- we will go extinct soon.
Given that the universe is probably finite, there is no likely way to avoid eventual extinction. But, that is not certain, either. It may be that humanity could learn how to escape even that doom. One thing is for sure, if we don't get off this rock, we certainly never will escape that doom. If we do get off this rock, we may have some chance.
If you live in a cave foraging, you'd likely be dead by 35 years old.
it is only technological innovation which can save mankind from relative near term extinction (on the order of 1,000 odd years or less,or so, roughly). No matter what, humanity's days have far fewer numbers without technology than with it. We need humanity off this rock, so all our eggs are not in one basket. Failing that -- we will go extinct soon.
Given that the universe is probably finite, there is no likely way to avoid eventual extinction. But, that is not certain, either. It may be that humanity could learn how to escape even that doom. One thing is for sure, if we don't get off this rock, we certainly never will escape that doom. If we do get off this rock, we may have some chance.
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We've got what? 3.5 billion years to do it? No pressure.
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No. Humanity is very likely to suffer extinction in more like the next 1000 years, or if not extinction then nearly so, with certainly the complete or near complete collapse of civilization.Făkünamę wrote:We've got what? 3.5 billion years to do it? No pressure.
3.5 billion years? Not a chance. There will be another ice age long before that, as there have been ice ages over and over again. The last one ended what? 10,000 years ago?
The Yellowstone Caldera would likely destroy civilization as we know it, and that has erupted many times in the past. Vulcanism, large asteroids -- nuclear war -- there are many things that will doom us. The Earth may have billions of years, but the earth was here billions of years before we got here too. Nothing says that human existence will be coextensive with the Earth.
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And humans have survived for 50 000 - 200 000 years (depending on what you count as "human"), before civilization, and you claim that a few hundred (or thousands, again depending on how you count) years into it, we have only 1000 more years to go. Well that's an argument for civilization and technology, if I ever heard one. 
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Mainly, I'm not arguing that every last one of us will for sure be gone in 1000 years, but that a great number of things (not technology driven) will depopulate us to the point that our civilization will be gone and we we would have to rebound from that to get us off the planet.MiM wrote:And humans have survived for 50 000 - 200 000 years (depending on what you count as "human"), before civilization, and you claim that a few hundred (or thousands, again depending on how you count) years into it, we have only 1000 more years to go. Well that's an argument for civilization and technology, if I ever heard one.
The Yellowstone Caldera is not a human technological event, and it is very likely to erupt, and can erupt at any time, and most of us will die from it. It may erupt tomorrow, or it may erupt on the order of thousands of years, but it has erupted many times in the past, seemingly cyclically.
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Humans are going to die out. This age of progress is a empty promise and every critical issue is pushed onto the next generation until hey presto a generation with insurmountable issues and then civilization collapse. The few survivors will have to deal with a unpredictable climate and living in the ruins of all that has gone, with chemical hazards and everything. I don't know why I even argue the case when it is self evident from the record of other great apes that dying out is very common.
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