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by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:42 am
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Okay, here's a brainteaser. Why would a divebomber fire it's machineguns at a ship. (Hint, they didn't care if they damaged the ship or not with them.)
At a guess...Would they be using them to gauge the trajectory of their bombs before releasing them (a bit like the ranging guns on tanks before they had laser rangefinders)?
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:48 am
JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Okay, here's a brainteaser. Why would a divebomber fire it's machineguns at a ship. (Hint, they didn't care if they damaged the ship or not with them.)
At a guess...Would they be using them to gauge the trajectory of their bombs before releasing them (a bit like the ranging guns on tanks before they had laser rangefinders)?
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Essentially. They could judge from the line of tracers what adjustments were needed on their attack dive. The pilot that described this was referencing his attack on
Yamato. The .50 cal. rounds were also handy for suppressing AAA from the open mounts on deck. You can imagine the havoc 348 warplanes could wreak on a ship of any size with machineguns alone.
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by Calilasseia » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:59 am
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Okay, here's a brainteaser. Why would a divebomber fire it's machineguns at a ship. (Hint, they didn't care if they damaged the ship or not with them.)
At a guess...Would they be using them to gauge the trajectory of their bombs before releasing them (a bit like the ranging guns on tanks before they had laser rangefinders)?
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Essentially. They could judge from the line of tracers what adjustments were needed on their attack dive. The pilot that described this was referencing his attack on
Yamato. The .50 cal. rounds were also handy for suppressing AAA from the open mounts on deck. You can imagine the havoc 348 warplanes could wreak on a ship of any size with machineguns alone.
That many planes would simply be too many for the AAA crews to handle with WWII vintage AAA. They'd be swamped. Even a 21st century warship with an 84-tube VLS launcher for latest generation SAMs and a brace of Phalanx CIWS would be severely tested by 348 inbound attacking aircraft.
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by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:01 pm
...Be better off with a giant fly-swatter.
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:02 pm
The attack on Yamato points out the crushing differential between IJN pre-war philosophy and reality.
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by klr » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:08 pm
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:The attack on Yamato points out the crushing differential between IJN pre-war philosophy and reality.
... and also Japanese desperation/stupidity, since they would have been long since aware of the dangers to ships from an enemy with air superiority. After all, they had more than enough success themselves early in the war against US and British ships, never mind being on the receiving end for a couple of years.
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:32 pm
klr wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:The attack on Yamato points out the crushing differential between IJN pre-war philosophy and reality.
... and also Japanese desperation/stupidity, since they would have been long since aware of the dangers to ships from an enemy with air superiority. After all, they had more than enough success themselves early in the war against US and British ships, never mind being on the receiving end for a couple of years.
It was a swan
dive song anyway,
Yamato was going to beach herself and become a big-ass pill box. Stupid plan, but that's what they were left with. The military set the course of the country instead of following the lead of the civilian government. This is what that got them.
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by klr » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:21 pm
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:42 pm
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by Svartalf » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:11 pm
Ôka suicide rocket plane?
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by Jason » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:16 pm
Yep. A spectacular failure thanks to its limited range.
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by klr » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:11 pm
Damn, I was hoping that one might trick people up. :twisted:
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by Svartalf » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:16 pm
Făkünamę wrote:Yep. A spectacular failure thanks to its limited range.
Weren't those launched from bombardier planes or something? Not speaking of landing but I don't think those things were even capable of taking off
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by klr » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:20 pm
Svartalf wrote:Făkünamę wrote:Yep. A spectacular failure thanks to its limited range.
Weren't those launched from bombardier planes or something? Not speaking of landing but I don't think those things were even capable of taking off
Yup. Both planes were sitting ducks when they were together. In some cases, the "Bettys" jettisoned the rocket planes to try and save themselves.
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