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Has Cat Steven's made bigoted remarks? Everything I've heard him say, even after his conversion, has been full of peace and love, but maybe I've missed something 

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He muttered something about Salman Rushdie must die but otherwise...religion of peace and everything....rachelbean wrote:Has Cat Steven's made bigoted remarks? Everything I've heard him say, even after his conversion, has been full of peace and love, but maybe I've missed something

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Yep. all peace and love 'till you say the wrong thing.Scrumple wrote:He muttered something about Salman Rushdie must die but otherwise...religion of peace and everything....rachelbean wrote:Has Cat Steven's made bigoted remarks? Everything I've heard him say, even after his conversion, has been full of peace and love, but maybe I've missed something
Also http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/cat-ste ... se-1.32282
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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... or if you're a woman outside his close family who tries to embrace him during an awards ceremony:Robert_S wrote:Yep. all peace and love 'till you say the wrong thing.Scrumple wrote:He muttered something about Salman Rushdie must die but otherwise...religion of peace and everything....rachelbean wrote:Has Cat Steven's made bigoted remarks? Everything I've heard him say, even after his conversion, has been full of peace and love, but maybe I've missed something
Also http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/cat-ste ... se-1.32282
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Steven ... iled_women
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rachelbean wrote:Has Cat Steven's made bigoted remarks? Everything I've heard him say, even after his conversion, has been full of peace and love, but maybe I've missed something

Wow, rachel, i'm just thising you all over the place!

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Apparently it was all a terrible misunderstanding:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... -1.1294182
http://www.spin.com/articles/michelle-s ... -francisco

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... -1.1294182
http://www.spin.com/articles/michelle-s ... -francisco

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The money was just resting in his account............klr wrote:Apparently it was all a terrible misunderstanding:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... -1.1294182
http://www.spin.com/articles/michelle-s ... -francisco
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I don't know. The apology sounds legit. She may have been setting up a scenario and speaking to that, but too inarticulate to make that distinction clear.
I don't know. It seems possible. The apology holds togeter logically. She seems genuinely contrite.
But who knows?
I don't know. It seems possible. The apology holds togeter logically. She seems genuinely contrite.
But who knows?
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Who knows indeed. If it was a mistake, she displayed an appalling lack of judgement, never mind abysmal failure to communicate properly. Given how long she's been in the music business, those seem strange mistakes to make.
On the other hand, a hardcore believer wouldn't be put off by all the fallout, and wouldn't make such a quick apology - not even to resuscitate tour/career prospects. Or so I'd like to think, but what do I know?
On the other hand, a hardcore believer wouldn't be put off by all the fallout, and wouldn't make such a quick apology - not even to resuscitate tour/career prospects. Or so I'd like to think, but what do I know?

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klr wrote:... or if you're a woman outside his close family who tries to embrace him during an awards ceremony:Robert_S wrote:Yep. all peace and love 'till you say the wrong thing.Scrumple wrote:He muttered something about Salman Rushdie must die but otherwise...religion of peace and everything....rachelbean wrote:Has Cat Steven's made bigoted remarks? Everything I've heard him say, even after his conversion, has been full of peace and love, but maybe I've missed something
Also http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/cat-ste ... se-1.32282
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Steven ... iled_women

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So apparently she's preaching tolerance for the intolerant.hadespussercats wrote:I don't know. The apology sounds legit. She may have been setting up a scenario and speaking to that, but too inarticulate to make that distinction clear.
I don't know. It seems possible. The apology holds togeter logically. She seems genuinely contrite.
But who knows?
In other music bigotry news: http://www.tmz.com/2013/03/20/dropkick- ... ricks-day/
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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klr wrote:Unusually for musical types who find God, The Zim actually made some good music in after that era.Scrumple wrote:....or Bob Dylan.JimC wrote:Bit like Cat Stevens, I suppose...Scrumple wrote:Still like her stuff from the good old days but it'll always be tainted now, which is a pity because the eighties stuff was, and is, quite good.

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Seeing that the apology came after two days of silence, only after all those gigs were cancelled and her publicist quit, I'm sceptical...hadespussercats wrote:I don't know. The apology sounds legit. She may have been setting up a scenario and speaking to that, but too inarticulate to make that distinction clear.
I don't know. It seems possible. The apology holds togeter logically. She seems genuinely contrite.
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Hm. Yes.Bella Fortuna wrote:Seeing that the apology came after two days of silence, only after all those gigs were cancelled and her publicist quit, I'm sceptical...hadespussercats wrote:I don't know. The apology sounds legit. She may have been setting up a scenario and speaking to that, but too inarticulate to make that distinction clear.
I don't know. It seems possible. The apology holds togeter logically. She seems genuinely contrite.
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He lost him again later, didn't he?klr wrote:Unusually for musical types who find God, The Zim actually made some good music in that era.Scrumple wrote:....or Bob Dylan.JimC wrote:Bit like Cat Stevens, I suppose...Scrumple wrote:Still like her stuff from the good old days but it'll always be tainted now, which is a pity because the eighties stuff was, and is, quite good.
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