Blind groper wrote:Seth
If you check early human history, or else various human societies in the modern world, you will quickly see that we live in social groups, and our methods of developing food and other goods require social cooperation.
So what? Dependent adults who do not contribute to those efforts debilitate the entire society by consuming resources without producing any positive benefits.
You can make a case for eugenics, or for other barbaric practices, as a form of Darwinism.
What's "barbaric" about eugenics?
But that is not the way most of us operate. Most of us care for other people.
Indeed. Perhaps more than a little too much however. When a "democratic" society allows the dependent class to outbreed the productive class, eventually the dependent class comes to outnumber the productive class, at which point the dependent class rapes and pillages the productive class to get more goodies without having to work for them and the entire society collapses when the productive class has been driven from productivity to dependence and nobody is producing wealth for the dependent class to expropriate.
That's exactly what happened in the now-defunct Soviet Union.
This is good, because most people at some stage become sick, or otherwise helpless, and need other people to carry them for a time.
Which is an entirely different issue, which makes your conclusion that follows a fallacy.
When they are healthy again, and strong, they do their share of helping others who need help.
But we're not talking about the temporarily disabled who need temporary assistance, we're talking about the chronically-dependent class of people who have been locked into dependence by government policies intended to keep them beholden to the political party that put them there for their entire existence, which is nothing more nor less than a method of political control to keep the offending political party in power by threatening the livelihoods of the dependent class if they fail to vote properly.
We're also talking about the deliberately dependent who choose to leech off society rather than be productive.
We're not talking about those who are, for reasons beyond their control, physically UNABLE to work temporarily due to illness or injury.
Look at someone like Stephen Hawking, who is confined to a wheelchair, and needs waiting on hand and foot just to survive. Yet he is someone who contributes to our species most powerfully. Allowing the helpless to die is not the human way, and it is definitely not the best way.
Non sequitur. He's a productive member of society even with his disability, so your analogy is fallacious.
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