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Yeah, but has he ever been a weather man on the TV?
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Good question. He may not be qualified, after all."A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it." ~ H. L. Mencken
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May I just say, Christopher Booker of the Daily Telegraph is an unalloyed cunt? This is the type of chap you get on the denialist side of things. He also thinks passive smoking does not cause cancer, asbestos is safe and is a proponent of intelligent design. A total loon.
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Oh god.... the Telegraph. I'm not usually in favour of raping and murdering the entire readership and staff of a broadsheet newspaper, but I make exception for the Telegraph... it's bloody dangerous.Clinton Huxley wrote:May I just say, Christopher Booker of the Daily Telegraph is an unalloyed cunt? This is the type of chap you get on the denialist side of things. He also thinks passive smoking does not cause cancer, asbestos is safe and is a proponent of intelligent design. A total loon.
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If Algerian militants pose a threat to the UK, the Daily Telegraph poses worse. It's the Daily Mail for people with ponies.Pappa wrote:Oh god.... the Telegraph. I'm not usually in favour of raping and murdering the entire readership and staff of a broadsheet newspaper, but I make exception for the Telegraph... it's bloody dangerous.Clinton Huxley wrote:May I just say, Christopher Booker of the Daily Telegraph is an unalloyed cunt? This is the type of chap you get on the denialist side of things. He also thinks passive smoking does not cause cancer, asbestos is safe and is a proponent of intelligent design. A total loon.
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Dood!rEvolutionist wrote:Huh?Făkünamę wrote:Yeah, coz science should just pump out propaganda and have an agenda becuz this is serious dood.rEvolutionist wrote:Yeah, coz science is what matters to politicians.Făkünamę wrote:What's the problem? So the opposition to AGW will be stronger. Big deal. Surely this only means climatologists will have to sharpen their pencils and check their weather stations a bit more to rebut the denialist claims thus advancing the science.
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That's a cute pic, but is he talking about GW or AGW?FBM wrote:guy has all the math and physics training needed to know whether or not the data point to the conclusions that the overwhelming majority of scientists, climatologists or otherwise, derive from it.
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Făkünamę wrote:That's a cute pic, but is he talking about GW or AGW?FBM wrote:
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I'm not a fan of NDT (He took away Pluto. The bastard), but he takes a rational and scientific stance regarding global warming there.
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You're off my Xmas card list.Făkünamę wrote:I'm not a fan of NDT...
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He was funny in his little cameo on The Daily Show this week.
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Funny how the first half he kept saying " we don't understand what might happen " and " we don't know what the effects might be " and " it's a big experiment " etc etc.
Then the second half he went on as if we did know, we did understand, we did know what the effects will be.
Without a shred of new info.
That sums up the whole debate. We don't know, followed by an huge unjustified jump to " we are heading for the fires of hell ".
THe reality? One half of a degree warming BEFORE CO2 levels jumped. One half of a degree after.
And fuck-all for the last ten years.
And STILL nobody can explain why CO2 levels have followed temperatures, not driven them, for hundreds of thousands of years.
And the only evidence FOR CO2 causing the rise this time is man-made models, which can be made to show anything you choose.
Then the second half he went on as if we did know, we did understand, we did know what the effects will be.
Without a shred of new info.
That sums up the whole debate. We don't know, followed by an huge unjustified jump to " we are heading for the fires of hell ".
THe reality? One half of a degree warming BEFORE CO2 levels jumped. One half of a degree after.
And fuck-all for the last ten years.
And STILL nobody can explain why CO2 levels have followed temperatures, not driven them, for hundreds of thousands of years.
And the only evidence FOR CO2 causing the rise this time is man-made models, which can be made to show anything you choose.
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That point has been well understood for at least the last 30 years.mistermack wrote:
And STILL nobody can explain why CO2 levels have followed temperatures, not driven them, for hundreds of thousands of years.
When the world starts to warm, sea temperatures rise, making CO2 less soluble, and thus entering the atmosphere. This phase takes a couple centuries. After that, the increasing CO2 levels in the atmosphere reinforce the temperature rise.
The original temperature rise, that kicks off the process, is related to Milankovitch Cycles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles
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The popular theory is now that we're screwed no matter what we do. So eat, drink and burn fossil fuels for 200 years or so from now we die.
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Faku
Your right arm is dripping with shit from all that stirring.
Your right arm is dripping with shit from all that stirring.
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