Biblical Explanation for School Shootings?

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Biblical Explanation for School Shootings?

Post by Robert_S » Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:42 am

http://stevedutch.blogspot.com/2013/01/ ... -from.html

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Where do School Shootings Come From?
Is it because we have people who agree things like this are okay?

Deuteronomy 2
32 When Sihon and all his army came out to meet us in battle at Jahaz, 33 the Lord our God delivered him over to us and we struck him down, together with his sons and his whole army. 34 At that time we took all his towns and completely destroyed them—men, women and children. We left no survivors.

Deuteronomy 3
3 So the Lord our God also gave into our hands Og king of Bashan and all his army. We struck them down, leaving no survivors. 4 At that time we took all his cities. There was not one of the sixty cities that we did not take from them—the whole region of Argob, Og’s kingdom in Bashan. 5 All these cities were fortified with high walls and with gates and bars, and there were also a great many unwalled villages. 6 We completely destroyed[a] them, as we had done with Sihon king of Heshbon, destroying every city—men, women and children.

Judges 21
10 So the assembly sent twelve thousand fighting men with instructions to go to Jabesh Gilead and put to the sword those living there, including the women and children.

Ezekiel 9
5 As I listened, he said to the others, “Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. 6 Slaughter the old men, the young men and women, the mothers and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my sanctuary.” So they began with the old men who were in front of the temple.

And in Joshua 6, at Jericho:
20 When the trumpets sounded, the army shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the men gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so everyone charged straight in, and they took the city. 21 They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.
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Re: Biblical Explanation for School Shootings?

Post by cronus » Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:58 am

When shit happens 'Act of God' is a way of avoiding scapegoating and blame games which could make a situation worse. Some evolutionary psychology at work even in the bronze age?
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Re: Biblical Explanation for School Shootings?

Post by Audley Strange » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:41 am

tenuous at best, reachiing like a chimp for mystical explanation is more accurate. Atheist or not, the assumption that a book can influence people into mass murder suggests the uncomfortable fact that all media can influence people into mass murder.

Which funnily enough seems to be a religious attitude towards most media but the bible, which is why they are always protesting things and trying to have things banned. There is a more obvious explanation, people go crazy and access to guns increase the body count.
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Re: Biblical Explanation for School Shootings?

Post by Jason » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:38 am

The 'bible' isn't just a book or another form of media. It's the core about which systems of indoctrination have been built for millennia. It's these systems that can and have influenced people into mass murder, abuse, debasement, and defilement of fellow human beings that would not otherwise be possible.

The holy books by themselves are very obviously not the cause. Any media by itself is not enough to turn a mentally stable individual into an inhuman monster. That takes a special kind of perversion provided by the religious model of thought control.

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Re: Biblical Explanation for School Shootings?

Post by Rum » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:51 am

Actually we all know this is bull. Its actually the fault of those filthy atheists and their lack of morals!

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Post by Svartalf » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:03 am

Bugger you, my morals may not be conventional, but I has them :tongue:
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Re: Biblical Explanation for School Shootings?

Post by Animavore » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:11 am

Rubbish. Everyone knows its the videa games.
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Re: Biblical Explanation for School Shootings?

Post by Tyrannical » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:13 am

Did demonic possession somehow go out of style?
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Re: Biblical Explanation for School Shootings?

Post by Audley Strange » Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:11 am

That would depend on how what you consider demonic possession.
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Re: Biblical Explanation for School Shootings?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:28 pm

Animavore wrote:Rubbish. Everyone knows its the videa games.
I blame the Midea.
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Re: Biblical Explanation for School Shootings?

Post by Robert_S » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:38 pm

Animavore wrote:Rubbish. Everyone knows its the videa games.
This one?

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