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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:35 pm

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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by sandinista » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:53 pm

Think you better get your ignore function fixed...among other things...obviously not working.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:55 pm

:hehe: Love it!
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by sandinista » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:00 pm

Of course you do, you always have. :funny:
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Post by sandinista » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:48 pm

and here I though the pm's I got saying you were senile and to take it easy on you were jokes.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by JimC » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:12 pm

sandinista wrote:never understood that...if you are "ignoring" my posts, how come you always reply to them? You're obviously not ignoring them.
:whisper: When you have someone on ignore, you always see that they've posted, but not the contents of the post.

If curiosity gets the better of you, you can click on "show this post"

I suspect 'Zilla isn't reading your posts, just doing a :yes: or equivalent after he sees that you've posted...

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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Seabass » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:14 pm

I've seen episodes 1-8, and I would have to say this could very well be the most biased, ideologically tainted "historical" account I have ever seen. They lay the blame for the Cold War entirely at America's feet, and portray the Soviets as hapless victims. Hilarious.

Oliver Stone is a ridiculous man.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by JimC » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:20 pm

Seabass wrote:I've seen episodes 1-8, and I would have to say this could very well be the most biased, ideologically tainted "historical" account I have ever seen. They lay the blame for the Cold War entirely at America's feet, and portray the Soviets as hapless victims. Hilarious.

Oliver Stone is a ridiculous man.
Such a position is certainly absurd, I quite agree.

But so is a portrayal of the US as a white-hatted warrior for truth, justice and democracy, whose motivations are as pure as the driven snow. That ideological position has had a lot of air play over the years...

Nuanced and realistic appraisals go out the window in the polarised debate on these issues...
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Jason » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:23 pm

Watch propaganda from both sides, check facts, and come to your own conclusions? That's hard work. :sulk:

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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Seabass » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:26 pm

JimC wrote: But so is a portrayal of the US as a white-hatted warrior for truth, justice and democracy, whose motivations are as pure as the driven snow. That ideological position has had a lot of air play over the years...
Has it had a lot of air play? Maybe in the '60s. Contemporary historical accounts tend to show the insanity on both sides.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by sandinista » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:29 pm

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sandinista wrote:never understood that...if you are "ignoring" my posts, how come you always reply to them? You're obviously not ignoring them.
:whisper: When you have someone on ignore, you always see that they've posted, but not the contents of the post.

If curiosity gets the better of you, you can click on "show this post"

I suspect 'Zilla isn't reading your posts, just doing a :yes: or equivalent after he sees that you've posted...

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and what would be the point of that? He just loves that I make posts? The senile warning seems to be coming a little clearer :coffee:
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by JimC » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:31 pm

Seabass wrote:
JimC wrote: But so is a portrayal of the US as a white-hatted warrior for truth, justice and democracy, whose motivations are as pure as the driven snow. That ideological position has had a lot of air play over the years...
Has it had a lot of air play? Maybe in the '60s. Contemporary historical accounts tend to show the insanity on both sides.
By air play, I mean by mainstream media, and by popular culture, as portrayed in many films and TV series. Serious political commentators and historians would not be pushing it, but in this era of sound bites and shallow media commentary, their impact is minimal.
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