But that would require thinking and a reasoned thought process to come to that conclusion?JimC wrote:More likely they realise that internal wrangling of this nature is common in all organisations, and wouldn't make a telling point in their campaign against atheism...Svartalf wrote:How about they all have decided Dawkins etc are inconsequential and not worth the effort?
Hahaha...Calilasseia wrote:Indeed, this is one aspect of the entire Greek tragedy that I'm puzzled about. If it was so easy for LP to find out this stuff, how come certain well known creationists haven't been all over it? Let's face it, they would regard this stuff as a solid gold gift handed to them on a plate, and we'd be bored shitless by the endless crowing and bleating ensuing therefrom. How come they've kept schtum over this? Are they simply too fucking stupid to bother digging this up, or are they saving this because they're hoping something far more juicy will turn up, which they can use this as the entrée to?
And another email:Richard - yes, I know. You have bought your mistress flats through Richard Dawkins Ltd, and kept this separate from your dealings with the Foundation. I am in full comprehension of this neat little arrangement.
And this isn't about "Richard Dawkins Ltd making investments in property" - this is you, purchasing flats, for your American mistress, who also so happens to be the Executive Director of your Foundation, by way of interesting sheer coincidence.
Don't dress it up in business-speak - it is primarily about you, your penis and doing your cronies favours. I don't intend to pry - but I don't imagine that Lalla would be impressed to find that Richard Dawkins Ltd's "property investments" so happen to be all addresses at which Elisabeth Cornwell has resided. Don't insult our intelligence.
And seeing as it is your private business - it is indeed your privilege to do that. It's a free world. My only intent on digging this stuff up is to see the depth of the sunk costs, and find tangible evidence of real conflict of interest in your relationship with REC - which does have a direct bearing on your Foundation.
Also - you may like to know - there are three entities running under your name registered in Colorado: http://www.sos.state.co.us/biz/Business ... eriaExt.do
All three are delinquent - haven't filed tax returns with the IRS. And one is the RDFRS Store.
There are also two discrete registered "Richard Dawkins Ltd" LLCs. That is, two registered in Colorado - one formed in 2009, and the other in 2010. Both, I wish to repeat - are delinquent.
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At the very least - this woman is very, very bad at keeping on good terms with the IRS with EVERY entity she is operating under your name.
And I have a sneaky suspicion that sloppiness is NOT her only sin. I think you are being gaslighted, and taken to the cleaners - and I think that the evidence will bear out to that effect...
And along with RDFRS US's pitiable compliance with the IRS - I think that, if I do find actionable grounds to file a complaint - the IRS will take genuine interest in the fact that Robin has three other registered, and delinquent, entities operating under your brand.
Or indeed, even if you remedy this fact in the near future - they will take keen interest in the fact that the Executive Director of your Foundation retains a proud history of blithe non-compliance with the IRS - and a very cosy relationship with you, under which she is either not being held accountable, or is taking the piss out of the IRS with your full blessing.
One way or another - the IRS will take interest, and so long as she has been at the helm of your Foundation - it WILL affect your Foundation.
You are a terrible, terrible fool.
That is all.
Bittersweet wishes,
Heather.
They have since remedied the issues with the RDFRS Store LLC in Colorado, and the RDFRS Corporation in Delaware... But as you'll see when I later document my email conversation with Elisabeth Cornwell - she lied like hell and backtracked over her story about what caused those delinquencies - and how they do, or don't, really matter...The Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science corp last filed its annual return with Delaware state in March 2010, and reportedly owes the state a small amount of tax ($136.28). Trifling - but yet another symptom in the syndrome of how messed up your business and charity affairs are - especially under the person you've delegated to.
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Heather.
In fairness, they would have to know where to look - and how to unearth various pieces of a puzzle and piece them together coherently. It really does help to have some knowledge of the internal politics and characters involved in an organisation, when going rummaging for this sort of stuff. It's not enough to be champing at the bit for some scandal or other - you have to know what to suspect, and have a fair idea of where to go snooping.Calilasseia wrote:So once again, are the likes of Ham, the Hovinds and Ray Comfort too stupid to find this stuff, or are they holding back because they think they can get their hands on something even juicier?
There's that too - but they could also slip bits to the press, anonymously - thus avoiding any backfiring...Or, now that some time for extra thought has occurred to me, are they keeping quiet because the shitfest might lead to their affairs coming under scrutiny, whereupon we'll find out that they're in even deeper shit with the law? Interesting thought, that last one.
Predominantly, shocking naivety - combined with a bit of complacency, some senior forgetfulness, and a touch of narcissism.As for the stuff you've unearthed, again I have to ask myself how the hell a guy like Dawkins, who should be aware that he has a lot of supernaturalist vested interests sharpening their knives in readiness to stick them in his back, got himself into this mire. I'm tempted to think that he's allowed himself to become the Franz von Papen of atheism, combining smug, self-satisfied patrician arrogance with utterly thermonuclear levels of complacency.
Indeed - but they are grave problems when you're claiming to run a charity devoted to 'Reason and Science', and using your public profile to encourage people to donate in good faith to an organisation which is in fact run very, very badly... Shockingly badly...DaveDodo007 wrote:It is all very well claiming to being just honest though you are simply accusing a very busy pensioner of being negligent, and maybe using nepotism while liking the pussy too much. Even if found to be true they aren't capital crimes.
Well - I will tell you that Timonen has never been my best friend - and you can verify this by searching my posts for the words 'Josh' or 'Timonen'... It is just that scouring the evidence has revealed, much to my dismay, that he is likely by no means the biggest bastard to have graced RDFRS, and that the case against him may indeed have been malicious. And I have been in correspondence with Ms Cornwell in particular - and she lied to and misled me just as would have been expected, going by that hypothesis.I'm sorry but I need more information as I smell a smear campaign by Josh Timonen et al with you being the patsy.
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$str = str_replace(array("\{","\}")," ",$str);I'll address this matter in a little more detail shortly.lordpasternack wrote:He's still admired by many, and it's still an itch that compels me to scratch...Elif air ab dinikh wrote:Dawkins is dead in the water and has been for a long time. His charity too. Move onto a worthy adversary?
Returning to what, by reference to an episode of Yes, Minister, I call the political dimension, with respect to Dawkins and his position, the simple fact that cannot be ignored is that he is regarded as being some sort of standard bearer, one with a particularly prominent profile at that. Whilst those of us who survived the "Year Zero" forum débacle have moved on somewhat, those not party to our experiences may well have an entirely different view of him. Quite a few may consider him to be the person they've been looking for, who can articulate their dissatisfaction with stolen supernaturalist privileges and rejection of supernaturalist blind assertions, in a manner that is both consonant with their own thinking, and accessible to a wider audience. We cannot take away from him the fact that his writings on numerous subjects are both articulate and accessible, and consequently sell in large numbers. Against that background, we have to face the prospect that any damage inflicted upon him, as a result of misjudgements arising from the usual human frailties, may well be accompanied by collateral damage upon the whole concept of a reality-based world view, and let's make no mistake here, the ideological stormtroopers for supernaturalism would love nothing better than to see that collateral damage maximised. This is the political reality we have to address and prepare for.Elif air ab dinikh wrote:Why not find a bigger uglier buboe? There are shitloads
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