U.K. is not a synonym of England

[laklak]

'Cuz there ain't but one King, and it's good to be him.

[Mysturji]

Because they all have the same (one) king (or queen).
Otherwise it would be a "United Kingsdom".

[Cormac]

Northern Ireland is certainly in the north of Ireland, but the most northerly point in Ireland is not in Northern Ireland, so it is therefore in the south.

It is obvious isn't it?

[JimC]

Personally, I think Northern Tasmania should be incorporated into the fine state of Victoria, and those southern Tasmanians can fuck off...

[Rum]

Those Tasmanian devils..

[Coito ergo sum]

Well you didn't read my post either, please do
http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 0#p1309989

Then tell me how smart I am for a Yank (and Yes, you have to grade on a scale)

Sorry, no, I did read your post at the time. It was more or less accurate. Minor quibbles, but that's all.

Can you clarify the minor quibbles?

[Coito ergo sum]

And yet strangely the English are the least nationalistic of all the people's of GB.

More evolved perhaps?

Or the most rightfully shameful ones

It's more of a backwards way of advancing an even greater degree of superiority. "We're so far above that little 'nationalism' thing that all the common countries engage in..." -- very English, that.

The English are like the Star Bellied Sneetches.

[Coito ergo sum]

Northern Ireland is certainly in the north of Ireland, but the most northerly point in Ireland is not in Northern Ireland, so it is therefore in the south.

Doesn't that depend who you are talking to? Those that suggest that Northern Ireland is illegally occupied, would suggest, with great ire, that Northern Ireland is Irish and therefore it is, indeed, the northern part of Ireland.

[Red Celt]

Well you didn't read my post either, please do
http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 0#p1309989

Then tell me how smart I am for a Yank (and Yes, you have to grade on a scale)

Sorry, no, I did read your post at the time. It was more or less accurate. Minor quibbles, but that's all.

Can you clarify the minor quibbles?

Exactly as I said... they were minor. They've been un-quibbled in the rest of the thread. Things like whether or not the small islands of England, Scotland and Wales are part of Great Britain or not (which depends upon whether you're being geographical (no) or political (yes)) and the island of Ireland isn't to the NW of Great Britain. It's West.

[Cormac]

Northern Ireland is certainly in the north of Ireland, but the most northerly point in Ireland is not in Northern Ireland, so it is therefore in the south.

Doesn't that depend who you are talking to? Those that suggest that Northern Ireland is illegally occupied, would suggest, with great ire, that Northern Ireland is Irish and therefore it is, indeed, the northern part of Ireland.

Either way, Dev is completely correct.

[Red Celt]

And yet strangely the English are the least nationalistic of all the people's of GB.

More evolved perhaps?

Or the most rightfully shameful ones

It's more of a backwards way of advancing an even greater degree of superiority. "We're so far above that little 'nationalism' thing that all the common countries engage in..." -- very English, that.

The English are like the Star Bellied Sneetches.

It's more a case of: the English are so great that they're less nationalistic than the rest of the U.K. - which is a nationalistic thing to say. Followed by the "more evolved" comment - even more nationalistic, further countering the two statements that were made in the first place.

Obvious stupidity or obvious trolling. Take's ya pick, ladies and gentlemen.

[Red Celt]

Northern Ireland is certainly in the north of Ireland, but the most northerly point in Ireland is not in Northern Ireland, so it is therefore in the south.

Doesn't that depend who you are talking to? Those that suggest that Northern Ireland is illegally occupied, would suggest, with great ire, that Northern Ireland is Irish and therefore it is, indeed, the northern part of Ireland.

Either way, Dev is completely correct.

I'm curious to know who, exactly, consider Northern Ireland to be "illegally occupied". Was it that guy on the bus the other day, who kept telling me that his greyhound was the re-incarnation of Napolean?

[Svartalf]

I for one deem that the saxons ought to take their subjects back and make restitution of the six counties to the country and island they legitimately belong to.

[HomerJay]

Northern Ireland is certainly in the north of Ireland, but the most northerly point in Ireland is not in Northern Ireland, so it is therefore in the south.

Doesn't that depend who you are talking to? Those that suggest that Northern Ireland is illegally occupied, would suggest, with great ire, that Northern Ireland is Irish and therefore it is, indeed, the northern part of Ireland.

Yes, it would probably be better if we had a united ireland, that re-joined the United Kingdom.

That would probably stop the arguments and the Ire.

Without the ire I guess it would just be called Island?

Or Island number 2, UK.

[Red Celt]

I for one deem that the saxons ought to take their subjects back and make restitution of the six counties to the country and island they legitimately belong to.

Because borders have to be on the shoreline? OK. When does the whole of North and South America get merged into one country? Or does the Panama Canal constitute a shoreline? North America and Central America (as far South as the canal)... one country. Make it so.

No?

If the counterargument is moving towards the "who was here first" approach, I'm going to sit here with popcorn if it's made by anyone from the U.S.A., Canada, Australia or New Zealand.