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Post by macdoc » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:53 am

Indicted by who?? Should be "accused of
....the petition is a bit off - stuff like that does not help.
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Post by FBM » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:55 am

UAW and an ethics watchdog group. I'll look it up, if you're interested.
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Post by FBM » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:57 am

From the linky:
As of November 1, Mitt Romney is one of the first presidential candidates ever to be charged with violating federal ethics law.

United Automobile Workers (UAW) and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) have just charged Romney with hiding between 15.3 to 11.5 million dollars from the auto industry bailout in his wife Anne’s “blind” trust to conceal the gain and reduce taxes on it.

"The American people have a right to know about Gov. Romney’s potential conflicts of interest, such as the profits his family made from the auto rescue,” the groups said in a statement. “It’s time for Gov. Romney to disclose or divest.”

It’s time to expose just how unscrupulous Romney is about making his fortune off the misfortunes of others. Please, support UAW and CREW by calling on Romney to reveal exactly how much he made and continues to make off the auto bailout!


PETITION TO MITT ROMNEY: It’s time to come clean. We demand to know how much money you hid in your wife’s supposed blind trust, and how much you continue to make thanks to the gutting of the auto industry.
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Re: 2012 US Election -- Round 2

Post by Warren Dew » Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:29 am

Apparently they're using "charged" as a synonym for "accused".

In which case, Obama has been "charged" with murder, because various fringe groups claim his failure to reinforce the Benghazi safe house constitutes murder.

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Post by FBM » Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:35 am

Yeah, it looks bogus to me, too. I can't find anything about legal charges having been filed.
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Post by Jesus_of_Nazareth » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:55 am

The rumour I heard is that the first action of President Romney will be to indict Obama.........for being uppity.

the second will be to make the USA a colony of Planet Kolob.

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Re: 2012 US Election -- Round 2

Post by Tero » Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:29 pm

The basis of Missourians selecting their leaders and the leader of the FREE world:
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Post by kiki5711 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:43 pm

FBM wrote:Yeah, it looks bogus to me, too. I can't find anything about legal charges having been filed.

http://b.3cdn.net/seiumaster/1c197ea2a9 ... 6b5bkf.pdf

Letter to Office of General Counsel & Legal Policy

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Post by kiki5711 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:47 pm

Nominee & New Entrant 278 Guide

Welcome to your new public role as you embark on a new leadership challenge. You may be a “Nominee” filer, engaged in a process leading to Senate confirmation and appointment by the President. Or, you may already be in your new government position and are filing as a “New Entrant.” In either case, you are presented with the prospect of accomplishing important policy and personal goals.

The opportunities presented by government service come with responsibilities. Transparency is a critical part of government ethics, and Congress has determined that the citizens should know their leaders’ financial interests. To facilitate such transparency, Congress enacted the financial disclosure provisions of the Ethics in Government Act. The Act imposes detailed requirements for financial disclosure for senior government officials. The OGE Form 278 is a financial disclosure report that requests only as much information as the Act requires you to disclose.

We at OGE are sensitive to the burden of completing this report, and the “Nominee and New Entrant 278 Guide” is designed to assist you with this process. Throughout the guide, you will find helpful instructions, illustrations, definitions and answers to frequently asked questions in plain language. We have attempted to keep our instructions clear and concise without compromising detail and accuracy.

http://www.oge.gov/Financial-Disclosure ... 278-Guide/

I THINK ROMNEY FORGOT TO FILL OUT THIS FORM.

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Re: 2012 US Election -- Round 2

Post by kiki5711 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:22 am

Mitt Romney and Bain Capital: Understanding the Reality
It should be evident in understanding the function of Bain and other equity funds that job creation or job loss is ancillary to the investment goals and activities. To increase the profits of the acquired company, the fund may reduce the number of employees, reduce pay levels or curtail work time. In that case the fund could face worker anger and union pressure. If the company happens to become very successful, as Staples did after Bain acquired it, it may expand its business requiring that it increase hiring and work time.
So what does all of that tell us about Mitt Romney? Certainly, his success in founding the Bain equity fund and operating it very successfully for a number of years speaks to his initiative and intelligence, his commitment to hard work, his ability to pull together a team of talented people and work closely with them. It also tells us that he is willing to take risks and to take action required to achieve his goals irrespective of whether that action helps or hurts people affected by it -- in this case employees of the acquired companies. It also tells us that he is flexible -- he could not accomplish what he did without being adaptable, willing to "go with the flow" and accommodate his views to his business interests and those of his investors and lenders. We have already seen much of that flexibility in his willingness as a candidate to change his political positions to accommodate the demands of the constituency whose support he is seeking. It also tells us that what he says now on the stump is not necessarily what he will do if he is elected president to accomplish his goals.
It also should be evident that "turning around" a business has little relationship with trying to change the direction of a country.

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Re: 2012 US Election -- Round 2

Post by Tero » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:07 pm

It's your choice: You can get a liar who is gonna ship your government job to Alaska and Puertorico, or a wimp who won't bomb Iran and Pakistan. Well, except for the toy planes (drones).
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Re: 2012 US Election -- Round 2

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:13 pm

kiki5711 wrote:
FBM wrote:Yeah, it looks bogus to me, too. I can't find anything about legal charges having been filed.

http://b.3cdn.net/seiumaster/1c197ea2a9 ... 6b5bkf.pdf

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That's a letter from Democrat groups asking for "an investigation." It's not a charge.

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Re: 2012 US Election -- Round 2

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:16 pm

kiki5711 wrote:Mitt Romney and Bain Capital: Understanding the Reality
It should be evident in understanding the function of Bain and other equity funds that job creation or job loss is ancillary to the investment goals and activities. To increase the profits of the acquired company, the fund may reduce the number of employees, reduce pay levels or curtail work time. In that case the fund could face worker anger and union pressure. If the company happens to become very successful, as Staples did after Bain acquired it, it may expand its business requiring that it increase hiring and work time.
Well, duh. Job creation is ancillary to any business. People don't run businesses for the purpose of creating jobs.

And, people don't invest for the purpose of creating jobs. When you put money in an IRA or 401k, is it for the purpose of creating jobs? Of course not.

However, job creation is ancillary to both, because businesses can't operate without people, so the more businesses that we have, the more people work, etc.

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