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Re: Political posterizing redux.

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:18 pm

Neither of them scare me. I oppose what Obama says he wants to do.


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Re: Political posterizing redux.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:19 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Neither of them scare me. I oppose what Obama says he wants to do.
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Re: Political posterizing redux.

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:23 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:Neither of them scare me. I oppose what Obama says he wants to do.
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Paraphrase -- yes, we do want to raise taxes by $1,000,000,000,000.

Tax hike on the middle class: http://www.businessinsider.com/obamas-4 ... ke-2012-10

Retain Obamacare.

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Re: Political posterizing redux.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:38 pm

Oh, I thought you had real issues. NVM
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Re: Political posterizing redux.

Post by Ian » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:46 pm

Even if Obamacare were to cost that much (um, this is very much disputed!), I think it takes a certain pathology to gripe about that while overlooking the even higher costs of a completely unnecessary war.

The line that liberals protest war while conservatives protest health care is a cliché, but only because it's true.

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Re: Political posterizing redux.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:47 pm

Ian wrote:Even if Obamacare were to cost that much (um, this is very much disputed!), I think it takes a certain pathology to gripe about that while overlooking the even higher costs of a completely unnecessary war.

The line that liberals protest war while conservatives protest health care is a cliché, but only because it's true.
"it takes a certain pathology " :coffee:
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Re: Political posterizing redux.

Post by Ian » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:52 pm

I try to be diplomatic. ;)

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:58 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Oh, I thought you had real issues. NVM
Figures you'd not consider those "real issues."

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Re: Political posterizing redux.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:59 pm

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Oh, I thought you had real issues. NVM
Figures you'd not consider those "real issues."
C.E.S., this is why I find your political position to be both funny and frightening. You really do scare the fucking shit out of me. Nothing personal, I know there are hordes out there like you, which is even more frightening. You'll kill this country.
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Re: Political posterizing redux.

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:02 pm

Ian wrote:Even if Obamacare were to cost that much (um, this is very much disputed!),
I didn't say how much it would cost.
Ian wrote: I think it takes a certain pathology to gripe about that while overlooking the even higher costs of a completely unnecessary war.
Obama has spent twice as much as Bush did on Afghanistan.

I don't overlook anything. I oppose Obamacare. That's not dependent on the Iraq War.
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The line that liberals protest war while conservatives protest health care is a cliché, but only because it's true.
Liberals only protest war when a Republican is in the White House. You're cheerleading for war now. Where are all the calls for daily counts of the dead? Where are all the calls to depict flag draped coffins? Where are all the antiwar protests? People camped outside of Obama's house? Liberal outrage over the extrajudicial executions of alleged terrorists without arrest or trial..... yes, it was a war crime to detain people "indefinitely" 5 years ago, now we can just blow them up and it's no biggie.... Liberals protest war, indeed. What a crock.

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Re: Political posterizing redux.

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:06 pm

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Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Oh, I thought you had real issues. NVM
Figures you'd not consider those "real issues."
C.E.S., this is why I find your political position to be both funny and frightening. You really do scare the fucking shit out of me. Nothing personal, I know there are hordes out there like you, which is even more frightening. You'll kill this country.
You don't think a $1 trillion tax hike is an important political issue? Really? Whether we keep or get rid of, or change, Obamacare is not an important issue to you? Really?

And, the fact that I do care about those things "scares" you?

This is why I find your political positions to be ludicrous. You don't scare me, but the fact that people like you don't care about $1 trillion hits on private funds is seriously disconcerting.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:06 pm

Crap, I'm cheerleading for no fucking war. Get your lying head out of your ass.
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Re: Political posterizing redux.

Post by Ian » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:14 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Ian wrote:Even if Obamacare were to cost that much (um, this is very much disputed!),
I didn't say how much it would cost.
Ian wrote: I think it takes a certain pathology to gripe about that while overlooking the even higher costs of a completely unnecessary war.
Obama has spent twice as much as Bush did on Afghanistan.

I don't overlook anything. I oppose Obamacare. That's not dependent on the Iraq War.
Ian wrote:
The line that liberals protest war while conservatives protest health care is a cliché, but only because it's true.
Liberals only protest war when a Republican is in the White House. You're cheerleading for war now. Where are all the calls for daily counts of the dead? Where are all the calls to depict flag draped coffins? Where are all the antiwar protests? People camped outside of Obama's house? Liberal outrage over the extrajudicial executions of alleged terrorists without arrest or trial..... yes, it was a war crime to detain people "indefinitely" 5 years ago, now we can just blow them up and it's no biggie.... Liberals protest war, indeed. What a crock.
Wow, does the truth hurt?

Your cognitive dissonance is amazing. Iraq is not Afghanistan. I was in favor of involvement in Afghanistan in 2001, and I am now. Thing is, we might not still be there now if Bush didn't get us side-tracked in Iraq. Afghanistan was put on the back-burner for six years.

But Afghanistan is beside the point anyway. Iraq cost far more (than Afghanistan or Obamacare), and was completely unnecessary. That's what I was talking about.

Leave it to you to put the two wars together and claim six of one, half dozen of the other, and I'm only being partial about them because my guy happens to be in the White House at the moment. THAT is a crock.

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