The Civil War Within Skepticism

[Seth]

I love it when ultra-orthodox religious Atheists argue about church doctrine. Martin Luther is laughing his ass off right now.

[Coito ergo sum]

Only one side of this discussion could be considered religious atheists. You've been proven correct, and the capital-A Atheists include Skepchicks and Freedomfromthoughtbloggers....

It's sad. But, apparently, undeniable.

[DaveDodo007]

Hmmmm.... Radfems and MRAs one one hand,. And on the other hand, a ragged bunch of sexy witty debauched perverted brilliant creative talented pain-in-the-ass friendly rabid atheist (mostly) freaks.

I find your thoughts intriguing and I want to subscribe to your newsletter.

[JimC]

Hmmmm.... Radfems and MRAs one one hand,. And on the other hand, a ragged bunch of sexy witty debauched perverted brilliant creative talented pain-in-the-ass friendly rabid atheist (mostly) freaks.

I find your thoughts intriguing and I want to subscribe to your newsletter.

That's a euphemism, right?

[Coito ergo sum]

Now they're going after Patrick Rothfuss --- http://jezebel.com/5942221/is-this-best ... hor-sexist

He writes things they think are creepy on his blog.

He wants to put out some kind of pinup calendar of sexy fantasy and sci-fi characters --- and they want to tell him he has to put men in it.

They think that "It seems clear for many reasons that The Kingkiller Chronicle is a set of books that cater to and are about men." -- err, so? There are whole genres of writing that "cater to and are about" women. Why does Patrick Rothfuss have to write about women too? Maybe he wants to cater to and write about men?

[DaveD]

Oops, wrong ApeLust thread!

[JimC]

Now they're going after Patrick Rothfuss --- http://jezebel.com/5942221/is-this-best ... hor-sexist

He writes things they think are creepy on his blog.

He wants to put out some kind of pinup calendar of sexy fantasy and sci-fi characters --- and they want to tell him he has to put men in it.

They think that "It seems clear for many reasons that The Kingkiller Chronicle is a set of books that cater to and are about men." -- err, so? There are whole genres of writing that "cater to and are about" women. Why does Patrick Rothfuss have to write about women too? Maybe he wants to cater to and write about men?

What part of "None of your fucking business" don't they get?

[Gerald McGrew]

Now they're going after Patrick Rothfuss --- http://jezebel.com/5942221/is-this-best ... hor-sexist

He writes things they think are creepy on his blog.

He wants to put out some kind of pinup calendar of sexy fantasy and sci-fi characters --- and they want to tell him he has to put men in it.

They think that "It seems clear for many reasons that The Kingkiller Chronicle is a set of books that cater to and are about men." -- err, so? There are whole genres of writing that "cater to and are about" women. Why does Patrick Rothfuss have to write about women too? Maybe he wants to cater to and write about men?

Shorter version: Any male who notices a woman's looks and comments on his being attracted to her is a sexist pig.

I read through that blog post thinking I was going to see something really offensive and clueless. Didn't see anything of the sort.

[Audley Strange]

If you can't get a hard-on from a obese pre-op transexual multiple amputee with violence issues and a narcotic addiction, you are oppressing women.

[JimC]

If you can't get a hard-on from a obese pre-op transexual multiple amputee with violence issues and a narcotic addiction, you are oppressing women.

(mind you, they can be pretty damned sexy...)

[Audley Strange]

They and all forms of binary gender based pronouns have been replaced. Since linear time is phallocentric and does not recognise the cyclical nature of existence in order to rectify this we had got rid of tenses as oppressive. Since objectification is wrong we have got rid of subject/object bigotry

This left us with one word to describe all combinations of he she and it. That word is Shit. Which is being re-empowered as a symbol not of waste but of unity, everyone has to shit. (Except the non shitters but fuck those freaks)

[orpheus]

They and all forms of binary gender based pronouns have been replaced. Since linear time is phallocentric and does not recognise the cyclical nature of existence in order to rectify this we had got rid of tenses as oppressive. Since objectification is wrong we have got rid of subject/object bigotry

This left us with one word to describe all combinations of he she and it. That word is Shit. Which is being re-empowered as a symbol not of waste but of unity, everyone has to shit. (Except the non shitters but fuck those freaks)

You know, there are universities where you could get a PhD with that as a thesis.

[Audley Strange]

They and all forms of binary gender based pronouns have been replaced. Since linear time is phallocentric and does not recognise the cyclical nature of existence in order to rectify this we had got rid of tenses as oppressive. Since objectification is wrong we have got rid of subject/object bigotry

This left us with one word to describe all combinations of he she and it. That word is Shit. Which is being re-empowered as a symbol not of waste but of unity, everyone has to shit. (Except the non shitters but fuck those freaks)

You know, there are universities where you could get a PhD with that as a thesis.

Yeah just pop in a ton of references from 90 social studies icons like Giddens et al , change the L in Audley to and R and within a few years I could be spouting bollocks on the late review.

I think I'd rather bathe in tramp sick.

[Gerald McGrew]

R. Watson's latest screed at Slate...

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/ ... ingle.html

"It Stands to Reason, Skeptics Can Be Sexist Too"

Kinda just re-hashes everything all over again, but I found the end to be interesting.

I also believe that old line about sunlight being the best disinfectant. Ignoring bullies does not make them go away.

Yet despite claiming to have looked at the Facebook profiles of her harassers (which means she knows who they are), she only actually names one. Hmmmmm......

[Coito ergo sum]

I learned about the skeptics back in college, when I worked in a magic store and performed gigs on the side. I was a huge fan of James “The Amazing” Randi, a magician who offers a million dollars to anyone who can prove they have paranormal abilities.

I've heard this claim before - that she was a "street performer" and a "magician." I call bullshit. If she had this skill, she'd have performed a trick at some point in one of her speeches. It's a natural crowd pleaser, and would enhance her presentations, even if only done at the beginning as sort of a mood lightener. She only does the "lead off with a joke" technique, despite having "magician" in her repertoire? I'd bet good money she's full of it. She worked in the magic store, i'm sure, but she probably just had a boyfriend who was into magic, and half-learned the "pick a card, any card" trick.

And, notice the careful wording here -- "I WAS a huge fan of ..." the Amazing Randi. Was, huh? Not present tense? Not past tense and a reference to "and still am?" I wonder why? Was it her ridiculous behavior there on the forums, when she hacked admin status and fucked with people who didn't agree with her?

I was occasionally grabbed and groped without consent at events.

Again, I call bullshit on this -- occasionally she was "grabbed and groped?" She's never recounted the details of these assaults and batteries, and has never indicated who groped and grabbed her. She never reported these incidents at the time to anyone, whether the conference organizers or anyone else. Hotel management -- nobody. You get "groped and grabbed" in hotel conference area and do/say nothing?

Nevertheless, my shameful past as a college graduate was “exposed” and passed around on social media and forums and blogs, as triumphant skeptics demanded I stop writing and speaking about science since I lacked the proper credentials. (Interestingly, no one has ever petitioned for my three non-scientist podcast cohosts to be removed from the show. Probably just a coincidence.)

LOL -- for me, I just don't listen to your podcast, because the whole lot of you just go out and read "homeopathy for dummies" and "why do people believe weird things" and then you parrot back what you've superficially learned and smugly mock others for being so gullible and stupid. Nobody needs a dopey Communications major (or batch of Communications majors) who gets off on hanging around nerds to lecture them. Fuck off. I just don't want to hear from you, and would prefer you didn't ruin conferences with your presence.