Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

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Re: Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

Post by Atheist-Lite » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:04 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Atheist-Lite wrote:Atheism is hardly showing a large increase in America. The rise can be fully explained by the internet giving American atheists a false sense of security through contact with a secular western european community where theocratic viewpoints are traditionally not taken with any great seriousness. With the coming economic malaise it may become hazardous to be openly atheist in America. At the least it will lead to denial of service from the efficient social 'foodplate' that religion often provides in hard times. At worst scapegoating and all that goes with that in a gun toting country. :smoke:
The internet is certainly a huge part of both increased education and the decrease in isolation of those with atheistic leanings.

The rest of your post is simply your hobby-horse getting its nightly exercise... :hehe:
I'm quite optimistic here. :smoke:
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Re: Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:20 am

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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Atheist-Lite wrote:Atheism is hardly showing a large increase in America. The rise can be fully explained by the internet giving American atheists a false sense of security through contact with a secular western european community where theocratic viewpoints are traditionally not taken with any great seriousness. With the coming economic malaise it may become hazardous to be openly atheist in America. At the least it will lead to denial of service from the efficient social 'foodplate' that religion often provides in hard times. At worst scapegoating and all that goes with that in a gun toting country. :smoke:
The internet is certainly a huge part of both increased education and the decrease in isolation of those with atheistic leanings.

The rest of your post is simply your hobby-horse getting its nightly exercise... :hehe:
I'm quite optimistic here. :smoke:
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Re: Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

Post by Svartalf » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:30 am

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Blind groper wrote:I think it is education.

The clue comes from the following survey results.
90% of Americans believe in a personal god.
40% of Americans with a bachelor of science degree believe in a personal god.
Under 10% of Americans with a Ph.D. in science believe in a personal god.
The road to Hell is paved by Universities! :shock:
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Re: Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

Post by JimC » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:49 am

Svartalf wrote:
JimC wrote:
Blind groper wrote:I think it is education.

The clue comes from the following survey results.
90% of Americans believe in a personal god.
40% of Americans with a bachelor of science degree believe in a personal god.
Under 10% of Americans with a Ph.D. in science believe in a personal god.
The road to Hell is paved by Universities! :shock:
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I bloody well enjoyed my time there as well!

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Re: Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

Post by klr » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:33 am

JimC wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
JimC wrote:
Blind groper wrote:I think it is education.

The clue comes from the following survey results.
90% of Americans believe in a personal god.
40% of Americans with a bachelor of science degree believe in a personal god.
Under 10% of Americans with a Ph.D. in science believe in a personal god.
The road to Hell is paved by Universities! :shock:
Me wanna be Hellbound again.
I bloody well enjoyed my time there as well!

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Re: Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:07 pm

2012 Presidential election FTW.

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Re: Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

Post by Tero » Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:35 pm

They need more gods. This monotheism just isn't working anymore.

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Re: Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

Post by JimC » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:11 pm

Tero wrote:They need more gods. This monotheism just isn't working anymore.
Holy Trinity, Batman! :shock:

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Re: Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

Post by MrJonno » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:06 am

People don't move from believing in god to being atheists, they move from believing in god as something vital in their lives to it just not being that important or to there is 'something more than this world thinking but I don't know what' type thinking
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Re: Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:41 pm

MrJonno wrote:People don't move from believing in god to being atheists, they move from believing in god as something vital in their lives to it just not being that important or to there is 'something more than this world thinking but I don't know what' type thinking
Some people do, some don't. It's hard to put a single path on people.
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Re: Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

Post by MrJonno » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:00 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
MrJonno wrote:People don't move from believing in god to being atheists, they move from believing in god as something vital in their lives to it just not being that important or to there is 'something more than this world thinking but I don't know what' type thinking
Some people do, some don't. It's hard to put a single path on people.
Talking about entire populatoins not individuals, Europe isnt full of atheists its full of people who are simple indifferent
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Re: Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:14 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
MrJonno wrote:People don't move from believing in god to being atheists, they move from believing in god as something vital in their lives to it just not being that important or to there is 'something more than this world thinking but I don't know what' type thinking
Some people do, some don't. It's hard to put a single path on people.
Talking about entire populatoins not individuals, Europe isnt full of atheists its full of people who are simple indifferent
Okay, then you're even more wrong. It's called a sweeping generalization.
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Re: Viewpoints: Why is faith falling in the US

Post by Jesus_of_Nazareth » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:32 pm

I am sure a minority of folk are more hardcore on religion than they ever were - but for most folks once the break from hands on involvement with Churches and Temples ends and the principle exposure is nutjobs on TV then it's a slow drift away that ends in either Atheism or Notcaringism......that's been going on for a generation or 2.

I also think the media is playing a big part - by giving the looney end of religions a platform it simply makes all of them look silly. Long may it continue!

Internet is simply icing on the cake.
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