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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Jason » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:22 pm

Taqiyya Mockingbird wrote:
PordFrefect wrote:There are two kinds of people in the world my friend: Those who like Wesley Crusher and those who don't. I don't.
Three: WTF is. a Wesley Crusher?

PS: you will immediately correct and apologize for your doubleplusungood fallacy, or you will be ostracized, called foul sexist names, and be farted at a second time.
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by laklak » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:25 pm

Dick Carrier wrote:Note that I will not speak at events run by organizations that are unwilling to repudiate sexism, racism, and homophobia, or that do not endorse the values of reasonableness, compassion, and integrity.
Fuck, there goes the White Men Against Uppity Black Lesbians meeting. Who we gonna get now, Wanda Sykes?
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by SteveB » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:33 pm

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This does not mean you, personally, have to go knocking on doors in ethnic neighborhoods or start attending local NOW meetings.
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:43 pm

Finally, are Atheism Plussers all just a bunch of awful bully meanies who make people cry? No. We will speak with passion and harsh truth in defense of the good. We will denounce and marginalize or make fun of people who are enemies of the good. And we will also stick to our values and apologize for or right any of our wrongs. And we will engage each other in reasonable debate on many issues within the compass of our values. These things entail no contradiction.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/2412/

You will denounce and marginalize those you consider to be enemies.

Fuck off, Atheism Plus. Go fuck yourselves. Pompous, arrogant, self-righteous pieces of shit. My fucking holy hell, the conceit on the part of these douchebags is palpable. I mean, who the FUCK would want to be in any club that would have an asshole like Carrier and these other snobs.
I made an argument about when and what sort of insults are appropriate in public discourse
Oh, you did now? Here's an insult for you, Carrier. You're a complete and utter pretentious, overbearing, presumptuous, and self-important jackass. Take your rules amounting "I can insult you, but you can't insult me" and shove them up your ass.
It will also be a condition of who I condemn or disown on my own time and in my own venues. In short, if you reject this value statement, you are simply my ideological enemy, and I will give you no quarter.
Well, those who give no quarter act in poor taste when they demand it for themselves. Be prepared, then, my cocksure friend, that folks will also give you and your snide, self-satisfied little group of poser douchebags no quarter, as well. Oh, wait, I forget, you are the "good guys..."

I can't believe that someone with full faculties could write the articles Carrier has written about Atheism Plus and still look themselves in the mirror in the morning.

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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

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Post by colubridae » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:49 pm

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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by laklak » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:54 pm

I don't want to be an A+. A+s have to work too hard. I'm glad to be a Gamma Minus.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by HomerJay » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:08 pm

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Post by orpheus » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:10 pm

laklak wrote:I don't want to be an A+. A+s have to work too hard. I'm glad to be a Gamma Minus.
Well, Beckett said he always tried to write in the "last person"
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Audley Strange » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:12 pm

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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Taqiyya Mockingbird » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:23 pm

PordFrefect wrote:
Taqiyya Mockingbird wrote:
PordFrefect wrote:There are two kinds of people in the world my friend: Those who like Wesley Crusher and those who don't. I don't.
Three: WTF is. a Wesley Crusher?

PS: you will immediately correct and apologize for your doubleplusungood fallacy, or you will be ostracized, called foul sexist names, and be farted at a second time.
Is it Friday night already? :thinks:


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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Taqiyya Mockingbird » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:24 pm

HomerJay wrote:via ratskep:
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by colubridae » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:34 pm

Taqiyya Mockingbird wrote:
HomerJay wrote:via ratskep:
Paula Kirby ‏@PaulaSKirby

Ladies and gentlemen, may I request a moment of silence in honour of CrucifixionPlus (Restored). pic.twitter.com/17wLZhof
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....<snif>……its...b...b...b...beautiful!

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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Seabass » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:38 pm

Richard Carrier wrote:Of course, even the original statement should have been clear enough, since who would side with sexism and cruelty and irrationality? Lots of people, apparently. Many atheists declared themselves for Atheism Less in the comments. Then acted all surprised when I treated them like those who side with sexism and cruelty and irrationality. You reap what you sow, people.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/2412/
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Riiiiiggghht, Mr. Carrier. My refusal to join your club has nothing to do with you being a divisive, arrogant, sanctimonious prick who gives ultimatums; clearly, it must be because I support sexism, cruelty, and irrationality.


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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by JimC » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:06 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:I don't think it is Atheist+ forum official policy (yet) but there are some members over there who believe that expressing contrary or critical opinion of atheism+ constitutes hate and that any site where such opinions are expressed is a "hate site", the members of which should not be allowed to sully the atheism+ forum.

Atheism+ is apparently as weak and feeble as Allah. It can withstand, and hence tolerate, no criticism.
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