AronRa has joined the chorus of prominent white guys speaking out against "hatred directed at women."
http://skepchick.org/2012/08/speaking-o ... n-aron-ra/
I respect AronRa tremendously. I read his piece carefully.
I agree with every word of it. It is exclusively focused on things like threats and extreme vitriol.
And, it illustrates the extreme disconnect in the conversation here. Nobody around here is advocating such things.
The problem is that things like "fake jewelry," "invites for coffee in an elevator," "a funny I am not a skepchick t-shirt" and a card handed to someone by a swinger --- these things are included by the Skepchicks and their ilk as among the things that are unacceptable threats, hatred, and vitriol against women.
That is the crux of this whole debate. Not everything Surly Amy complains about is "hate" or "vitriol" or "unacceptable." Elyse getting a card handed to her by a male/female swinger couple is not "hatred against women." Rebecca Watson being asked for coffee in a hotel room is not "hatred against women." None of the things that everyone was been suggesting the Skepchicks stop whining about has anything at all to do with violence against women, hatred of women or other vitriol directed against women.
This is common in almost all of the Skepchick "speaking out against hatred directed at women" pieces. They all refer to serious stuff like threats of violence, vitriolic hatred, and extreme, scary stuff. Yet the high profile examples the Skepchick whine about are milquetoast platitudes and paltry little discourtesies.
