I don't understand what you're saying here. I've been nothing but vocal on this issue.maiforpeace wrote: So feel free to do your due diligence while cower and shake in the corner.
Not from where I'm standing. Pappa made a bad joke, perhaps out of frustration with things that rubbed him the wrong way about the Skepchicks and what they do. He did NOT target anyone of them as the term 'Skepchicks' refers to the group as a whole, including their hangers-on. There was no threat and certainly no harassment. Harassment is the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group. As there there were no Skepchicks here at the time there was no one to express their annoyance and indicate it as unwanted as it was not systematic or continued it was not harassment. As this was a one-off incident it was not a case of harassment. The charge of harassment falls flat on both counts. A threat is an expression of intention to inflict evil, injury, or damage or an indication of something impending. Nowhere in Pappa's joke did he ever even hint that he had any intent of raping anyone or otherwise inflicting injury or damage on them nor did he indicate that any such thing was impending. What did happen is that someone actively searched for the words 'rape' and 'skepchick' and without performing their due diligence (which I did in discovering this little factoid) proceeded to grasp for some suitably emotionally charged defamatory words backed up with scathing invective they could use to create a nice little strawman with only the most tenuous connection to the reality of the situation.Pappa chose to play with a dangerous weapon, with different consequences than real life. He pointed it at PZ's friends who have been targeted before, and that was how PZ chose to protect them. One of the accidental shots hit us.
Yes, he was lucky it was kept to internet slagging. The point is that in real life this sort of thing would have very real and very costly legal repercussions for him. It was irresponsible, irrational and just plain ignorant and stupid on his part.But we are an obscure forum, so all really happened is some people were made to feel uncomfortable by untrue accusations. So how exactly were his actions so much more serious? Maybe he's human doesn't respond rationally under when going into protect mode?
He went into 'protect mode'? That's supposed to be a viable defence for a man who claims to be a rationalist? In the face of no actual harassment or threats, only those imagined by persons who don't have a grasp of the English language, he launches an all out attack against people, including Pappa, that he doesn't know from Adam? No where is this acceptable. The 'protect mode' excuse is a red herring.
