UK government agency approves fundamentalist curriculum

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Re: UK government agency approves fundamentalist curriculum

Post by fretmeister » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:14 am

So there are 2000 kids in the system?

Lets say 200 of them get 3 or 4 A level equivalents.

They apply to attend proper universities, who reject them.

The Uni's will reject them due to the lack of academic rigor. The pupils (no doubt supported by ACE) will sue for discrimination. It will be a media circus all about religion.

No one will mention how badly the kids have been let down by their "education"


I appreciate that it affects a small minority in the UK at the moment, but 30 years ago in the US it was a much smaller problem too. Proper science education requires a massive budget, and it should get it.

I was lucky, I went to a private boarding school. When the school needed a new science block they asked the more successful old boys who weighed in the cash.

Amusingly it was a Woodard School (CofE) with permanent pastoral staff and chaplains and compulsory chapel attendance.

The heads of all 3 sciences had an active part in the Chapel. And not one of them was a creationist / or history liar. If you couldn't prove it... you were told to get back in the lab
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Re: UK government agency approves fundamentalist curriculum

Post by Pappa » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:16 pm

fretmeister wrote:I appreciate that it affects a small minority in the UK at the moment, but 30 years ago in the US it was a much smaller problem too.
That's a very good point. The home schooling movement had a lot of backing and powerful forces putting money into it too. They've created a generation or two of fundies.
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Re: UK government agency approves fundamentalist curriculum

Post by rachelbean » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:19 pm

Pappa wrote:
fretmeister wrote:I appreciate that it affects a small minority in the UK at the moment, but 30 years ago in the US it was a much smaller problem too.
That's a very good point. The home schooling movement had a lot of backing and powerful forces putting money into it too. They've created a generation or two of fundies.
And a few atheists :hehe:

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Re: UK government agency approves fundamentalist curriculum

Post by mistermack » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:33 pm

fretmeister wrote: They apply to attend proper universities, who reject them.

The Uni's will reject them due to the lack of academic rigor. The pupils (no doubt supported by ACE) will sue for discrimination. It will be a media circus all about religion.
Is that really how it happens?
When I applied to Universities, they made me offers, of a place, if I got such-and-such grades.
Fail to get the grades, and they had no obligation to take me.
The offer was based on an interview, and whatever info that they had. If they really liked you, they would make a lower offer.

Maybe it's all changed. But anyway, I can't see how you could sue. If the University didn't rate your qualification as desirable, that's not religious discrimination. It's educational discernment.

I can't see it happening, or having any success if they tried.
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Re: UK government agency approves fundamentalist curriculum

Post by tantamount » Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:56 pm

mistermack wrote:
fretmeister wrote: They apply to attend proper universities, who reject them.

The Uni's will reject them due to the lack of academic rigor. The pupils (no doubt supported by ACE) will sue for discrimination. It will be a media circus all about religion.
Is that really how it happens?
When I applied to Universities, they made me offers, of a place, if I got such-and-such grades.
Fail to get the grades, and they had no obligation to take me.
The offer was based on an interview, and whatever info that they had. If they really liked you, they would make a lower offer.

Maybe it's all changed. But anyway, I can't see how you could sue. If the University didn't rate your qualification as desirable, that's not religious discrimination. It's educational discernment.

I can't see it happening, or having any success if they tried.
These home school crazies don't want to go to mainstream universities anyway. Sure, they're functionally incompetent and they couldn't get in. But would they really try to get in? An actual university would corrupt them with its critical reasoning, evolution, and permissiveness (some of these colleges permit the student body to dance).

From homeschooling, they either go to a straight-up bible school or a less than straight-up bible-school like Liberty, Bob Jones, Patrick Henry. (Bob Jones only ended its ban on interracial dating in 2000-- now that's a place for an upright Christian to go.) There, they learn creationism, debate, apologetics, and train to be lawyers and politicians, so they can destroy our educational system and democracy from the inside out.

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