Veggie Oil as Substitute for Diesel

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Re: Veggie Oil as Substitute for Diesel

Post by FBM » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:35 pm

Kimchee is good food. :what:
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Re: Veggie Oil as Substitute for Diesel

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:28 pm

FBM wrote:Kimchee is good food. :what:
Yeah, but Wal-mart kimchee is gotta be garbage. Can you imagine a buyer from Arkansas selecting your kimchee for you?
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Re: Veggie Oil as Substitute for Diesel

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:59 pm

I take it as a good sign that this thread is quiet. :)

The thought occurs (not sure why it took so long) that this same fuel could power a generator.
Now I'm wondering what sort of output (KW/hours) could be drawn before running into the fuel tax threshold for the UK.
Here in the UK one can produce 2500 litres per year before paying tax...but I wonder if a generator (powering a modest dwelling) would consume that much in a year. I'm thinking that if generators are economical enough then you could have free energy for life (barring repair and maintenance to the generator, of course).

*Scuttles off to look into diesel generator economy figures.*
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Re: Veggie Oil as Substitute for Diesel

Post by FBM » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:32 am

:hehe: I had the same idea and tracked down a diesel generator here in Korea a few years ago. Unfortunately, there's no way to hook it up to the mains here, so I couldn't figure out any way to profit from buying it. I've still got about 300 liters of veggie oil left. Car is still running fine on it.
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Post by JimC » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:52 am

FBM wrote::hehe: I had the same idea and tracked down a diesel generator here in Korea a few years ago. Unfortunately, there's no way to hook it up to the mains here, so I couldn't figure out any way to profit from buying it. I've still got about 300 liters of veggie oil left. Car is still running fine on it.
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Post by FBM » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:05 am

It smells more like a kitchen where lots of different stuff is frying/burning at the same time. :tup: Beats the hell out of that diesel smell...
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Re: Veggie Oil as Substitute for Diesel

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:13 am

Anyone trying to gas themselves to death in their car would probably just end up feeling hungry and go for something to eat, I imagine...Kind of an incidental safety feature. :hehe:
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Post by FBM » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:15 am

:lol: That, and there's no CO (or very little) in the exhaust... ;)
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Re: Veggie Oil as Substitute for Diesel

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:23 am

FBM wrote::lol: That, and there's no CO (or very little) in the exhaust... ;)
...but you might die of monosodium glutomate poisoning.
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Post by FBM » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:26 am

:hehe:
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Re: Veggie Oil as Substitute for Diesel

Post by Tero » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:34 am

Veggie oil does have a carboxyl. So at one end the molecule is polar. Would veggie oil ethanol vlend better? Im thinking of cheap combustible emulsifier.

But Im not buying your gummed up old Kia.

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Re: Veggie Oil as Substitute for Diesel

Post by Tero » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:37 am

We dont have enugh veggie oil to burn for generators. The point of the veggie oil is that its portable. Coal runs cars poorly, you have to make CO from it.

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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:41 am

I have actually heard of internal combustion engines that ran off coal dust.
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Re: Veggie Oil as Substitute for Diesel

Post by Tero » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:47 am

The cars during the war ran on wood chips, burned to CO, fed to carburator. As long as you did not go uphill.
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Re: Veggie Oil as Substitute for Diesel

Post by FBM » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:53 am

Tero wrote:Veggie oil does have a carboxyl. So at one end the molecule is polar. Would veggie oil ethanol vlend better? Im thinking of cheap combustible emulsifier.

But Im not buying your gummed up old Kia.
:lol: In cold weather, I blend it with kerosene until the weather gets really cold, then I go back to straight diesel until Spring. I don't think it's gummed up internally. I drain the fuel filter from time to time, too.
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