Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

User avatar
AshtonBlack
Tech Monkey
Tech Monkey
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:01 pm
Location: <insert witty joke locaction here>
Contact:

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by AshtonBlack » Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:04 pm

Paco wrote:
AshtonBlack wrote:
Paco wrote:
AshtonBlack wrote:There is a statistical correlation (though with other factors, I'm sure) between intelligence (as a definition I'm including emotional intelligence too) and a lack of belief in god or gods. But like all things with reference to people, it's a shifted bell curve, so we can expect clever theists and stupid atheists as well. (I will dig out the study, if required.)
I've met enough clever theists and stupid atheists to know that what you're saying is right, my point was more that the atheists who find their way onto RDF are more than likely going to be intelligent because they wouldn't be there if they hadn't thought it through.
I accept your postulation. I, personally, think that a good education, with a little self reflection is the antithesis of theism and woo in general.
On the subject of personality clashes, I don't tend to get involved and no-one has called me on anything so I can't really speak from within a frame of reference.
I think you are trying to have a joke here (no offence if you aren't) but it's posts like that which stop me from contributing to RDF, it's full of words that are there to try and give the impression of intelligence but it isn't how intelligent people talk. I know for a fact that you are intelligent, Ashton, and what you're saying above is something I mostly agree with but I find your use of vocabulary quite pretentious and snooty :coffee: :biggrin:
Nice, I was going for the intellectual elite wanna be. :tup: Cheers!

10 Fuck Off
20 GOTO 10
Ashton Black wrote:"Dogma is the enemy, not religion, per se. Rationality, genuine empathy and intellectual integrity are anathema to dogma."

User avatar
Shaker
Posts: 432
Joined: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:27 pm
About me: I came on Eileen.
Contact:

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by Shaker » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:12 pm

The Philosophy section on RDF was notorious for the size of some of the egos on show, and sometimes Politics and Current Affairs wasn't (isn't?) much better. There were people there who seemed to regard it as fate worse than death to actually lose an argument.
Naming no names, obviously ... those sorts of details have to be kept strictly undercover.
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." - Charles Bukowski

User avatar
klr
(%gibber(who=klr, what=Leprageek);)
Posts: 32964
Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:25 pm
About me: The money was just resting in my account.
Location: Airstrip Two
Contact:

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by klr » Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:05 pm

Shaker wrote:
The Philosophy section on RDF was notorious for the size of some of the egos on show, and sometimes Politics and Current Affairs wasn't (isn't?) much better. There were people there who seemed to regard it as fate worse than death to actually lose an argument.
Naming no names, obviously ... those sorts of details have to be kept strictly undercover.
No names, no pack drill, as the old saying goes ... :whistle:
God has no place within these walls, just like facts have no place within organized religion. - Superintendent Chalmers

It's not up to us to choose which laws we want to obey. If it were, I'd kill everyone who looked at me cock-eyed! - Rex Banner

The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression. - Gary Larson

:mob: :comp: :mob:

User avatar
lordpasternack
Divine Knob Twiddler
Posts: 6459
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:05 am
About me: I have remarkable elbows.
Contact:

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by lordpasternack » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:42 pm

No-one has annoyed me to the intensity of any real grudge in quite a long time - and most of the odd ones who have pissed me off to some extent have involved genuine clashes of personality, in that me and whatever person just hadn't been cut from similar cloth. While the more intense ill-feeling has gone towards those whom I perceive to be genuinely obnoxious, and/or bitchy and/or hypocritical and self-righteous bastards. I haven't encountered anything of the latter on this forum.

There was one member over on RDF whom I could hardly stand for a brief period, and I discussed the matter in one particular conversation with CJ in Leeds - who verified that this member was indeed the roaring little hypocrite that I thought they might have been - and that he, with a comrade on the forum, actually played a little game of "rumour ping-pong" with this particular member, and with great success. I actually considered warning another member of that forum about this member not being the best news they could possibly receieve, but I didn't want to feel like a bitch myself. :coffee:

Generally speaking though - I don't get too worked up about my little notions of other people too much. I'm not the most easy person to offend in most contexts. I tend to just keep any ill-prejudices on the back burner and allow them to be re-shaped as I continue to interact with the folk - and I'm even willing to forgive and/or forget fairly quickly. I don't really do long-term grudges. Life's far too short to get all worked up about disliking others, and holding stuff against them forever.

On that note - a few people have said that I was a lot more easy-going in person than they thought I'd be. :hehe:
Then they for sudden joy did weep,
And I for sorrow sung,
That such a king should play bo-peep,
And go the fools among.
Prithee, nuncle, keep a schoolmaster that can teach
thy fool to lie: I would fain learn to lie.

Trolldor
Gargling with Nails
Posts: 15878
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:57 am
Contact:

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by Trolldor » Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:16 am

Gawdzilla wrote:"The only people that can annoy you are those to whom you have given that power. Don't give it and they have an impossible job."

It's not the people that annoy me, it's just the lack of life that annoys me.
It's far too... formal there now. In debates you could have a jovial laugh and riddle your posts with in-jokes and nobody would know the difference.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

User avatar
Geoff
Pouncer
Posts: 9374
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:39 pm
Location: Wigan, UK
Contact:

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by Geoff » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:15 pm

lordpasternack wrote: On that note - a few people have said that I was a lot more easy-going in person than they thought I'd be. :hehe:
That's very true!
Image
"...anyone who says it’s “just the Internet” can :pawiz: . And then when they come back, they can :pawiz: again." - Tigger

User avatar
Animavore
Nasty Hombre
Posts: 39276
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:26 am
Location: Ire Land.
Contact:

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by Animavore » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:18 pm

I don't clash with anyone.

Although one person clashes with me but, this person clashes with everyone. I think he/she does it on purpose.
Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.

CJ
Posts: 8436
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:03 am
Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by CJ » Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:05 pm

So we do have individual personal conflicts here and ignoring the individual that bugs one appears to be the pragmatic course of action?

User avatar
AshtonBlack
Tech Monkey
Tech Monkey
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:01 pm
Location: <insert witty joke locaction here>
Contact:

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by AshtonBlack » Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:42 pm

CJ wrote:So we do have individual personal conflicts here and ignoring the individual that bugs one appears to be the pragmatic course of action?
Careful CJ, Paco will be on your back for using snooty and pretentious words! :hehe:

10 Fuck Off
20 GOTO 10
Ashton Black wrote:"Dogma is the enemy, not religion, per se. Rationality, genuine empathy and intellectual integrity are anathema to dogma."

User avatar
charlou
arseist
Posts: 32528
Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:36 am

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by charlou » Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:53 am

CJ wrote:So we do have individual personal conflicts here and ignoring the individual that bugs one appears to be the pragmatic course of action?
I prefer discourse first, either via pm or in the In Depth forum (if both agreeable). If that doesn't resolve things then agree to take a break from discourse and otherwise post as normal. If it's apparent that one or both parties are continually being antagonistic or engaging in harrassment on the board, then either party can ask for moderation and the 'play nice' guideline can be invoked.
no fences

CJ
Posts: 8436
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:03 am
Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by CJ » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:47 am

Charlou wrote:
CJ wrote:So we do have individual personal conflicts here and ignoring the individual that bugs one appears to be the pragmatic course of action?
I prefer discourse first, either via pm or in the In Depth forum (if both agreeable). If that doesn't resolve things then agree to take a break from discourse and otherwise post as normal. If it's apparent that one or both parties are continually being antagonistic or engaging in harrassment on the board, then either party can ask for moderation and the 'play nice' guideline can be invoked.
I thought of my comment as a last resort after other avenues had been exhausted or dismissed as futile.

User avatar
von Starnberg
Posts: 191
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:59 pm
Contact:

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by von Starnberg » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:46 am

Getting annoyed at someone on a forum would be like getting annoyed at a tomato. Why should I care, really, what anyone posts? It is quite literally no skin off my nose, as you English say. I'll read the interesting posts and ignore the rest. Nothing here angers me. Except that idiot Clinton.

User avatar
Pappa
Non-Practicing Anarchist
Non-Practicing Anarchist
Posts: 56488
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:42 am
About me: I am sacrificing a turnip as I type.
Location: Le sud du Pays de Galles.
Contact:

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by Pappa » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:55 am

CJ wrote:
Charlou wrote:
CJ wrote:So we do have individual personal conflicts here and ignoring the individual that bugs one appears to be the pragmatic course of action?
I prefer discourse first, either via pm or in the In Depth forum (if both agreeable). If that doesn't resolve things then agree to take a break from discourse and otherwise post as normal. If it's apparent that one or both parties are continually being antagonistic or engaging in harrassment on the board, then either party can ask for moderation and the 'play nice' guideline can be invoked.
I thought of my comment as a last resort after other avenues had been exhausted or dismissed as futile.
I've not really had any serious issues with anyone... but if I find someone annoying, I just tend not to interact with them or their threads. I've never been one to hold a grudge or stay annoyed long, so after a while I usually forget what it was that I found annoying anyway.
For information on ways to help support Rationalia financially, see our funding page.


When the aliens do come, everything we once thought was cool will then make us ashamed.

User avatar
Feck
.
.
Posts: 28391
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:25 pm
Contact:

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by Feck » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:15 am

it seems to me that RDF and here are very different for one good reason RDF is a forum for arguement ,the fact is most people do not
remove their egos before an arguement.For some people arguement is their sport and they get very good at it.For some of these people
every arguement is like a pro-tennis game , you can almost hear them grunt with satisfaction when they break serve.
This forum was set up because of a common need for somewhere to go OT that is we are like picnic in the park.Ok there may be some
'sport' played but we tend to play frisbe or just sit around and giggle .

As for me i dont think I'm that different in RL, maybe slightly because I'm here during weekdays and sober ,
I would be interested if any of the people who have met me would let me know if they thought I had an online personna much different to RL?
Clashes online I try and ignore them as much as is possible.RL is full of people I can't stand ,sometimes minimal polite interactions cannot be avoided on forums as in RL .
:hoverdog: :hoverdog: :hoverdog: :hoverdog:
Give me the wine , I don't need the bread

User avatar
charlou
arseist
Posts: 32528
Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:36 am

Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.

Post by charlou » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:06 am

CJ wrote:
Charlou wrote:
CJ wrote:So we do have individual personal conflicts here and ignoring the individual that bugs one appears to be the pragmatic course of action?
I prefer discourse first, either via pm or in the In Depth forum (if both agreeable). If that doesn't resolve things then agree to take a break from discourse and otherwise post as normal. If it's apparent that one or both parties are continually being antagonistic or engaging in harrassment on the board, then either party can ask for moderation and the 'play nice' guideline can be invoked.
I thought of my comment as a last resort after other avenues had been exhausted or dismissed as futile.
Ah, okay. Image
no fences

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Majestic-12 [Bot] and 4 guests