Sam Harris destroys Catholicism

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Re: Sam Harris destroys Catholicism

Post by mistermack » Tue May 08, 2012 10:51 am

JimC wrote: However, it is reasonable to argue strongly against religious types who insist that faith in a divine being of some sort is the only valid source of morality.

Morality may not be an objective phenomena in the same category as gravitation, but it does arise from an important confluence between hominid co-operative impulses and logical reasoning.
Absolutely. To say that morality isn't objective, isn't devaluing it.
We all share the morality that we've evolved. So things are right and wrong, as far as WE are concerned.

Just because our morality is subjective to the feelings of humans, that doesn't mean we shouldn't care if someone is a serial rapist of children. We SHOULD care, because we ARE human.

Although some pedophile priests might disagree though.
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Re: Sam Harris destroys Catholicism

Post by Hermit » Tue May 08, 2012 10:57 am

Ahem. What about the paedophiles who are not priests?
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Re: Sam Harris destroys Catholicism

Post by amused » Tue May 08, 2012 11:22 am

Compassion and empathy are objective, from which the abstraction of morality is derived.

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Re: Sam Harris destroys Catholicism

Post by Hermit » Tue May 08, 2012 12:42 pm

:funny:



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Sorry. Couldn't help myself.
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Re: Sam Harris destroys Catholicism

Post by amused » Tue May 08, 2012 11:25 pm

:hehe:

I was hoping to provoke something a bit more approachable, but I get your drift. :biggrin:

I *think* I'm re-phrasing the gist of Harris' proposition, and don't entirely disagree with it, but I understand the objections to the assertion of objectivity.

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