Unarmed teen shooting: Is Florida law to blame?

[Coito ergo sum]

Could be possible, but is far from proven. Your evidence for that assertion is...?

Gazzillion people feel the same way. No proof needed. Just common sense.

As far as Zimmerman, you or someone else brought up Derschowitz, not me. I was just pointing that his word is not written in stone.

It's not his word or credibility that is at issue. If the prosecution knew about that photo before they issued the arrest warrant, then they knowingly excluded exculpatory evidence, which would be unethical for the prosecutor to do so. It doesn't matter who says it.

[Coito ergo sum]

A gun isn't required to kill someone. Playing devil's advocate, Zimmerman's apology wasn't that he apologized for killing Martin, but only that he felt sorry for their loss. Check the exact quote. His statements that he didn't know whether or not Martin was armed could just as easily be used in Zimmerman's defense.

Personally it sounds to me like he's a good person at heart who was trying to make Martin's family feel better, as Martin's family had asked for in a television interview.

I do think the apology could be twisted against him by a sharp prosecutor much as mistermack describes, though. No good deed goes unpunished.

The apology is in the same line as : abusive husband shoots wife.: "see now what you made me do"!! "you made me shoot you, you stupid bitch".

Husband to judge: "I didn't mean to shoot her, she was attacking me and it was self defense".

If they prove that Zimmerman's head was bleeding as depicted in the photos -- i.e. - if that latest photo is shown to be a true depiction of his head- would that change your opinion?

Would it help if they showed credible evidence that he did not chase Martin down? Or, that Martin's sister did not have the phone call she claimed to have?

[kiki5711]

Could be possible, but is far from proven. Your evidence for that assertion is...?

Gazzillion people feel the same way. No proof needed. Just common sense.

As far as Zimmerman, you or someone else brought up Derschowitz, not me. I was just pointing that his word is not written in stone.

It's not his word or credibility that is at issue. If the prosecution knew about that photo before they issued the arrest warrant, then they knowingly excluded exculpatory evidence, which would be unethical for the prosecutor to do so. It doesn't matter who says it.

If, maybe, should have, could have, maybe it is............are equivalent to "NULL".

[Coito ergo sum]

Could be possible, but is far from proven. Your evidence for that assertion is...?

Gazzillion people feel the same way. No proof needed. Just common sense.

As far as Zimmerman, you or someone else brought up Derschowitz, not me. I was just pointing that his word is not written in stone.

It's not his word or credibility that is at issue. If the prosecution knew about that photo before they issued the arrest warrant, then they knowingly excluded exculpatory evidence, which would be unethical for the prosecutor to do so. It doesn't matter who says it.

If, maybe, should have, could have, maybe it is............are equivalent to "NULL".

No they're not. We know the photo exists. We know the cops were aware of it. Was the prosecutor? That's the only "if." And, generally all the evidence the cops have is provided to the prosecutor.

If "if" was equivalent to "null" then your constant harangue about how Zimmerman "chased" Martin down is a big fat "null," isn't it? Since that's just one big "if" at the moment. So, are you consistent in your allegation that "if" is "null?"

[kiki5711]

If the prosecution knew about that photo before they issued the arrest warrant, then they knowingly excluded exculpatory evidence, which would be unethical for the prosecutor to do so. It doesn't matter who says it.

Your "if".

No they're not. We know the photo exists. We know the cops were aware of it. Was the prosecutor? That's the only "if." And, generally all the evidence the cops have is provided to the prosecutor.

Your inconclusive proof. Another "if" from you.

If they prove that Zimmerman's head was bleeding as depicted in the photos --

Another "if" from you.

[FBM]

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