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Post by kiki5711 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:51 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote: You dimwit, I'm not trying to make it into racial war. I'm commenting on what I heard and reports I read.
Now I'm a dimwit?

Maybe you ought to look at the primary evidence, rather than some agenda-driven secondary source?

You ARE trying to make it a racial thing, because you keep bringing race into it, and you make specific reference to going out and shooting blacks and hispanics. If it's not racial, then why are you putting it in racist terms?
Only because racist crimes by cops done in this country are too many to disregard it. It's a FACT that blacks and hispanics get targeted more often than whites and treated harsher.

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Re: Unarmed teen shooting: Is Florida law to blame?

Post by kiki5711 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:53 am

Warren Dew wrote:
Seth wrote:Image
That actually looks pretty painful. Where does it come from?
funny! every time I watch that video, the bump on his head seems to grow?

from a different angle, right before that frame, his head looks perfectly normal buzz hair cut head. (in one of the earlier videos).

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Re: Unarmed teen shooting: Is Florida law to blame?

Post by laklak » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:00 am

Well, looks like The Great White Racist Good Old Boy Network is altering the video, to make it look like Zimmerman was actually injured, when in fact we all KNOW that he's guilty of a racially motivated, cold blooded murder of an innocent child because it's OBVIOUS.

Oh, hang on, the people altering the evidence aren't the Good Old Boys, it's MSNBC.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Seabass » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:52 am

kiki5711 wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:
Seth wrote:Image
That actually looks pretty painful. Where does it come from?
funny! every time I watch that video, the bump on his head seems to grow?

from a different angle, right before that frame, his head looks perfectly normal buzz hair cut head. (in one of the earlier videos).

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/03/justi ... index.html

Watch the video. Nothing nefarious going on there.
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kiki5711 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote: You dimwit, I'm not trying to make it into racial war. I'm commenting on what I heard and reports I read.
Now I'm a dimwit?

Maybe you ought to look at the primary evidence, rather than some agenda-driven secondary source?

You ARE trying to make it a racial thing, because you keep bringing race into it, and you make specific reference to going out and shooting blacks and hispanics. If it's not racial, then why are you putting it in racist terms?
Only because racist crimes by cops done in this country are too many to disregard it. It's a FACT that blacks and hispanics get targeted more often than whites and treated harsher.

When you're told you're ugly enough times, sooner or later you'll start acting like it.
You can always escape the White man's thumb back in Africa. Imagine what could be done if 40,000,000 African-Americans immigrated to and rebuilt Africa :ask:
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Post by FBM » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:19 am

Tyrannical wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote: You dimwit, I'm not trying to make it into racial war. I'm commenting on what I heard and reports I read.
Now I'm a dimwit?

Maybe you ought to look at the primary evidence, rather than some agenda-driven secondary source?

You ARE trying to make it a racial thing, because you keep bringing race into it, and you make specific reference to going out and shooting blacks and hispanics. If it's not racial, then why are you putting it in racist terms?
Only because racist crimes by cops done in this country are too many to disregard it. It's a FACT that blacks and hispanics get targeted more often than whites and treated harsher.

When you're told you're ugly enough times, sooner or later you'll start acting like it.
You can always escape the White man's thumb back in Africa. Imagine what could be done if 40,000,000 African-Americans immigrated to and rebuilt Africa :ask:
Liberia?
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Re: Unarmed teen shooting: Is Florida law to blame?

Post by kiki5711 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:31 am

Tyrannical wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote: You dimwit, I'm not trying to make it into racial war. I'm commenting on what I heard and reports I read.
Now I'm a dimwit?

Maybe you ought to look at the primary evidence, rather than some agenda-driven secondary source?

You ARE trying to make it a racial thing, because you keep bringing race into it, and you make specific reference to going out and shooting blacks and hispanics. If it's not racial, then why are you putting it in racist terms?
Only because racist crimes by cops done in this country are too many to disregard it. It's a FACT that blacks and hispanics get targeted more often than whites and treated harsher.

When you're told you're ugly enough times, sooner or later you'll start acting like it.
You can always escape the White man's thumb back in Africa. Imagine what could be done if 40,000,000 African-Americans immigrated to and rebuilt Africa :ask:
wow, that was really ugly statement and shows your total ignorance.

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Re: Unarmed teen shooting: Is Florida law to blame?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:32 am

kiki5711 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote: You dimwit, I'm not trying to make it into racial war. I'm commenting on what I heard and reports I read.
Now I'm a dimwit?

Maybe you ought to look at the primary evidence, rather than some agenda-driven secondary source?

You ARE trying to make it a racial thing, because you keep bringing race into it, and you make specific reference to going out and shooting blacks and hispanics. If it's not racial, then why are you putting it in racist terms?
Only because racist crimes by cops done in this country are too many to disregard it. It's a FACT that blacks and hispanics get targeted more often than whites and treated harsher.
You're calling me a dimwit, and then suggesting that hispanics get treated harsher -- while apparently disregarding that Zimmerman is hispanic, and from his picture looks obviously hispanic. So, by your own racist argument, the cops would have arrested Zimmerman because he was hispanic, or at least "treated him harsher."
kiki5711 wrote:
When you're told you're ugly enough times, sooner or later you'll start acting like it.
Some folks need to learn to understand that what other people think doesn't matter. But, that doesn't appear to have anything to do with the thread.

Well, unless you're claiming that blacks and hispanics act worse because they're told by some folks that they are worse, which I'll leave you to prove by something other than your own biases and preconceived notions.

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Ok, I'm watching this video, which was I think one of the first ones, and from all angles I see no injury on his head. The light spots appear shining on different spots on his head with his movements and that's about all. The shining spots were not just in one spot where later, with a close up, would show injury. His head here looks the same.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:49 am

Warren Dew wrote:
Seth wrote:Image
That actually looks pretty painful. Where does it come from?
Racist cops beat the "spic" so that it would look like the "nigger" beat him up to justify the "spic" shooting the nigger. That way, the racist cops can stick their neck out to protect a "spic" and that's because as we all know, cops treat "spics" harsher than other other people. The only reason they sided with him here is because the other guy was a step lower on the racial hierarchy. We all know that.

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Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote: You dimwit, I'm not trying to make it into racial war. I'm commenting on what I heard and reports I read.
Now I'm a dimwit?

Maybe you ought to look at the primary evidence, rather than some agenda-driven secondary source?

You ARE trying to make it a racial thing, because you keep bringing race into it, and you make specific reference to going out and shooting blacks and hispanics. If it's not racial, then why are you putting it in racist terms?
Only because racist crimes by cops done in this country are too many to disregard it. It's a FACT that blacks and hispanics get targeted more often than whites and treated harsher.
You're calling me a dimwit, and then suggesting that hispanics get treated harsher -- while apparently disregarding that Zimmerman is hispanic, and from his picture looks obviously hispanic. So, by your own racist argument, the cops would have arrested Zimmerman because he was hispanic, or at least "treated him harsher."
kiki5711 wrote:
When you're told you're ugly enough times, sooner or later you'll start acting like it.
Some folks need to learn to understand that what other people think doesn't matter. But, that doesn't appear to have anything to do with the thread.

Well, unless you're claiming that blacks and hispanics act worse because they're told by some folks that they are worse, which I'll leave you to prove by something other than your own biases and preconceived notions.
It's not just simply because they're black or hispanic. Poverty, prejudice, and UNequal opportunity to live and pursue success and happiness add to crime.
It is the same in every other country among the poor. Brazil is one example where crime is really rampant in the ghettos. The divide between people born in ghettos and the rich is such a great divide that it's practically impossible for those in the ghettos to get anywhere past there.

I'm not saying that I would like to live in an all black neighborhood because I have a bleeding heart, and I get super annoyed with the hispanics playing their annoying music super loud, and every hispanic family has at least 2 five year olds at any time in their house, or having two to three families living together, and having they use the emergency room as their family doctor, for which I the tax payer, have to foot the bill, while they keep all their tax free cash.

The bottom line is about this law, and the fact that Zimmerman had no training in being a neighborhood watchman and the consequences of that is he didn't use good judgment, which ended with one person dead.

Did Martin just out of the blue, attack Zimmerman? If Zimmerman had followed instructions the dispatcher gave him to "not continue to follow" maybe there would have been no death. So, why did Zimmerman still continue to follow and take matters into his own hand. What thoughts were going through his mind to decide, "no, way, I'm going after this guy, I just know, he's up to no good"?

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Re: Unarmed teen shooting: Is Florida law to blame?

Post by kiki5711 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:52 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:
Seth wrote:Image
That actually looks pretty painful. Where does it come from?
Racist cops beat the "spic" so that it would look like the "nigger" beat him up to justify the "spic" shooting the nigger. That way, the racist cops can stick their neck out to protect a "spic" and that's because as we all know, cops treat "spics" harsher than other other people. The only reason they sided with him here is because the other guy was a step lower on the racial hierarchy. We all know that.
Ok, let's put aside the racist blanket and look at the video, that is, if you can dig your head out of the mud for a few minutes.

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Post by kiki5711 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:36 pm

laklak wrote:Well, looks like The Great White Racist Good Old Boy Network is altering the video, to make it look like Zimmerman was actually injured, when in fact we all KNOW that he's guilty of a racially motivated, cold blooded murder of an innocent child because it's OBVIOUS.

Oh, hang on, the people altering the evidence aren't the Good Old Boys, it's MSNBC.
Well it seems MSNBC has a history of reporting blunders.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/t ... ews-307399

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Ok, I'm watching this video, which was I think one of the first ones, and from all angles I see no injury on his head. The light spots appear shining on different spots on his head with his movements and that's about all. The shining spots were not just in one spot where later, with a close up, would show injury. His head here looks the same.
The cop sure seems to see something interesting on the back of his head. If you get a low enough resolution image, the moon will look like a round, white blank. The image enhancement done by the CNN crew is the standard sort of thing that police do to identify suspects and collect evidence.
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Post by kiki5711 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:41 pm

FBM wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:

Ok, I'm watching this video, which was I think one of the first ones, and from all angles I see no injury on his head. The light spots appear shining on different spots on his head with his movements and that's about all. The shining spots were not just in one spot where later, with a close up, would show injury. His head here looks the same.
The cop sure seems to see something interesting on the back of his head. If you get a low enough resolution image, the moon will look like a round, white blank. The image enhancement done by the CNN crew is the standard sort of thing that police do to identify suspects and collect evidence.
If you know anything about head injuries, they bleed A LOT, even with small blunt force.

The spot lite just moves from one spot on his head to another, and that's the lighting.

The cop looks like he's "telling" something to Zimmerman, not inspecting the back of his head.

Zimmerman's jacket has no stains whatsoever. If you ever had to do kids laundry, you know when they play in the grass, it stains. I don't see any stain at all, or a smudge on the back of his jacket.

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