Psychopaths

[Schneibster]

Here is that same quote, in context.

Okay, I'm back, at least for a bit, because it's an interesting thread. And I've never put anyone on "ignore" before, but maybe I'll give it a try. First, though:

At some point, people who are insane become a threat to themselves and society. Currently we determine this by noting that they've hurt or killed someone. This seems a bit callous to me. Apparently not to you.

I realize Seth has already pointed this out, but I'd like to confirm that there are in fact many insane people who are no threat to society, and only a threat to themselves in that they can't organize their thoughts well enough to take care of themselves.

Those people are not psychopaths.

"Those people" is the people you specified who are no threat to society.

Sorry you misunderstood.

[Schneibster]

To clarify-- If insane people are not all psychopaths, don't refer to psychopaths by calling them people who are insane. Thanks.

You just claimed that if not all insane people are psychopaths, not all psychopaths are insane people.

Logical fallacy: Non sequitur.

[hadespussercats]

To clarify-- If insane people are not all psychopaths, don't refer to psychopaths by calling them people who are insane. Thanks.

You just claimed that if not all insane people are psychopaths, not all psychopaths are insane people.

Logical fallacy: Non sequitur.

You were attributing nasty behaviors and murderous tendencies to the insane, without distinction. This as a deep insult to the non-violent insane.

[Schneibster]

To clarify-- If insane people are not all psychopaths, don't refer to psychopaths by calling them people who are insane. Thanks.

You just claimed that if not all insane people are psychopaths, not all psychopaths are insane people.

Logical fallacy: Non sequitur.

You were attributing nasty behaviors and murderous tendencies to the insane, without distinction. This as a deep insult to the non-violent insane.

I'm sorry, but I don't see how that applies to your non sequitur. You sound confused. And angry.

And paranoid.

ETA: Not to mention you just moved the goalposts.

[Coito ergo sum]

To clarify-- If insane people are not all psychopaths, don't refer to psychopaths by calling them people who are insane. Thanks.

You just claimed that if not all insane people are psychopaths, not all psychopaths are insane people.

Logical fallacy: Non sequitur.

It's not a non sequitur, because hades' conclusions do follow from her premises. You mischaracterized what she was saying. That's not a surprise coming from you, though.

[Schneibster]

To clarify-- If insane people are not all psychopaths, don't refer to psychopaths by calling them people who are insane. Thanks.

You just claimed that if not all insane people are psychopaths, not all psychopaths are insane people.

Logical fallacy: Non sequitur.

It's not a non sequitur,

[Coito ergo sum]

To clarify-- If insane people are not all psychopaths, don't refer to psychopaths by calling them people who are insane. Thanks.

You just claimed that if not all insane people are psychopaths, not all psychopaths are insane people.

Logical fallacy: Non sequitur.

You were attributing nasty behaviors and murderous tendencies to the insane, without distinction. This as a deep insult to the non-violent insane.

I'm sorry, but I don't see how that applies to your non sequitur. You sound confused. And angry.

And paranoid.

ETA: Not to mention you just moved the goalposts.

She didn't. And, you go from mischaracterizing her argument, to namecalling and ad hominem. That too appears to be your modus operandi.

Moving the goalposts is plainly not applicable here. Moving the goalposts is when evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. That didn't happen here at all.

[Schneibster]

To clarify-- If insane people are not all psychopaths, don't refer to psychopaths by calling them people who are insane. Thanks.

You just claimed that if not all insane people are psychopaths, not all psychopaths are insane people.

Logical fallacy: Non sequitur.

You were attributing nasty behaviors and murderous tendencies to the insane, without distinction. This as a deep insult to the non-violent insane.

I'm sorry, but I don't see how that applies to your non sequitur. You sound confused. And angry.

And paranoid.

ETA: Not to mention you just moved the goalposts.

She didn't.

[Coito ergo sum]

To clarify-- If insane people are not all psychopaths, don't refer to psychopaths by calling them people who are insane. Thanks.

You just claimed that if not all insane people are psychopaths, not all psychopaths are insane people.

Logical fallacy: Non sequitur.

It's not a non sequitur,

It's not a non sequitur, because hades' conclusions do follow from her premises. You mischaracterized what she was saying. That's not a surprise coming from you, though.

[Schneibster]

Dude, she claimed if not all insane people are psychopaths, then not all psychopaths are insane. It does not follow. That is the definition of "non sequitur."

Are you done lying?

[Coito ergo sum]

[Schneibster]

I'll take that as a "no."

[Coito ergo sum]

Dude, she claimed if not all insane people are psychopaths,

False. Your inability to comprehend the English language is not Hades' fault. It's your own deficiency.

then not all psychopaths are insane.

False. She made no such claim either.

It does not follow. That is the definition of "non sequitur."

But, she didn't say what you mischaracterized her as saying.

Are you done lying?

[Coito ergo sum]

I'll take that as a "no."

Take it however you like. You're plainly not interested in what Hades was actually telling you. She clarified it, and you still made up some strange allegation that bore no resemblance to what she actually said. You run around accusing people of "lying" when telling complete and utter falsehoods is apparently a hobby of yours. You won't answer simple questions. You demand that people provide "proof or don't say it," but you decline to follow that same rule. Your arguments quickly devolve into name calling and ad hominem, and when you're not mischaracterizing people's arguments you're ignoring them

[Schneibster]

Dude, she claimed if not all insane people are psychopaths,

False.

I quoted it. Sorry you're having trouble with reality.