Art critics must die!

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Art critics must die!

Post by Rum » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:45 pm

I know there are many people here who have something like disdain for modern art. Having gone to art college in the early 70s and therefore knowing some of the 'theory' I am not as dismissive, though I am dubious about much of it.

But when it comes to critics and commentators of modern art they should all be straggled by their own ball bag strings! I have just finished watching 'Art of Amemrica' written and presented by Andrew Graham-Dixon (the hyphenated name gives you a good idea about the wankerage level..).

I could quote at least fifty inconsistent, contradictory, illogical, opinionated, ill founded, empty headed, twattish things from his script. Also stupid and full of vanity. But here's just a few.

'Minimalist art was like a supermarket shelf. Stacks of commodities, but with no labels or content'.

He was 'riding above the gusts of modern America to find higher truths'.

'I love it when the paint is on the floor. It's a bit like the painter's blood'.

''This is America seeping puss'.

Fuck off you twat.

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Post by klr » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:51 pm

Modern art is not my cup of tea, but I certainly wouldn't be dismissive of it in general.

My own personal ire is usually reserved for music critics. A good critic is someone who I agree with*, and whenever I read music reviews (which is becoming increasingly rare) I find that the critic seems to inhabit a different world to me. Very often, they seem to be more interested in promoting some argument/narrative than anything else, to the detriment of a unbiased, clinical review of the music in question.

*Or to be more serious: A very good critic is someone who can make me change my mind, or at least look at things in a new way.
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Post by Audley Strange » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:52 pm

Pompous Twats are entitled to their own shows as well as everyone else, you should be thankful we live in a country where such irritating minorities are still catered for by the media.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:07 pm

I've always wanted to do performance art to express that the artist's creative impulse will express itself regardless of what the morons say.

My concept involves 4 or 6 strong guys holding an art critic down while I crap on him.
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Post by klr » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:11 pm

Svartalf wrote:I've always wanted to do performance art to express that the artist's creative impulse will express itself regardless of what the morons say.

My concept involves 4 or 6 strong guys holding an art critic down while I crap on him.
:hehe: You might be able to get a grant for that, if the art budgets haven't been cut all the way down to nothing yet.

You'll need to find some post-modern angle to your performance piece to secure a grant though.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:14 pm

postmodern? I ain't sure, a lot of my art theory froze when I was 6 months old, in may of 68.
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Post by Robert_S » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:15 pm

From my brief time around the art scene, it seemed to me that the manifestos and criticisms were often much more interesting than the works.

When I walk through the art museum at the University of Illinois, the work that speaks to me the most is often something a student did. There is something about not having too much theory.
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Post by Pappa » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:22 pm

Svartalf wrote:postmodern? I ain't sure, a lot of my art theory froze when I was 6 months old, in may of 68.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:27 pm

Jackson Bollocks. 'nuff said.
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Post by Pappa » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:27 pm

Rum, you should check out some of Bill Jay's writings. I can't seem to find it right now, but he once wrote an article advising art students to select random sentences from any art journal and jumble them all up to form an essay or description of their work. From what I vaguely remember, his examples were indistinguishable from the "real" thing. :hehe:

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Post by Azathoth » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:29 pm

Brian Sewell should be first against the wall when they do. Cunt
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:29 pm

Pappa wrote:Rum, you should check out some of Bill Jay's writings. I can't seem to find it right now, but he once wrote an article advising art students to select random sentences from any art journal and jumble them all up to form an essay or description of their work. From what I vaguely remember, his examples were indistinguishable from the "real" thing. :hehe:
Didn't we do a postmodern thread of writing some bollocks or other like this? :ask: As I recall it was terribly funny...
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Post by klr » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:30 pm

Pappa wrote:Rum, you should check out some of Bill Jay's writings. I can't seem to find it right now, but he once wrote an article advising art students to select random sentences from any art journal and jumble them all up to form an essay or description of their work. From what I vaguely remember, his examples were indistinguishable from the "real" thing. :hehe:
There are on-line post-modern essay generators that do much the same thing. :tut:

I regularly watch the BBC2 Newsnight Review arts show on Friday nights, and sometimes it feels like they're in a different place to me. :?

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Pappa wrote:Rum, you should check out some of Bill Jay's writings. I can't seem to find it right now, but he once wrote an article advising art students to select random sentences from any art journal and jumble them all up to form an essay or description of their work. From what I vaguely remember, his examples were indistinguishable from the "real" thing. :hehe:
Didn't we do a postmodern thread of writing some bollocks or other like this? :ask: As I recall it was terribly funny...
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:31 pm

:swoon: great minds... at least we have one between the two of us.... :teef:
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Post by klr » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:33 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote::swoon: great minds... at least we have one between the two of us.... :teef:
Or half a mind each. :shifty:
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