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MGS3: Snake Eater Mafia - Tactical Espionage Action DAY 1

Post by Don't Panic » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:06 pm

andrewclunn wrote:Well, I'll just accept (even if I'm not entirely certain I agree) that differences in the standard game mechanics (scum always receiving fake roles for example) result in different optimal town strategies, and adapt my play accordingly. That said,

##vote unvote##

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as a sort of tit-for-tat and all that :razzle:
Revenge voting? Nope that isn't considered scummy at all. :fp:
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MGS3: Snake Eater Mafia - Tactical Espionage Action DAY 1

Post by Don't Panic » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:08 pm

charlou wrote:
andrewclunn wrote:
Feck wrote:
andrewclunn wrote:RC = roll claim. PC = power claim. I would RC as the name of my character. If I had some special ability (such as role blocker or doctor for example) that's what I would share for a PC. Man, things are very different here.
Then scum would be able to target you :banghead:
If it looks like I'm going to get lynched, why not out my information to save myself? Even if I get killed that night, it will be one less kill form scum starting day 2 because they had to waste their night kill on me, rather than somebody else because town lynched me. That's what I'm not getting about this no to claims, but yes to lynch on day 1 approach.
Outing if you're on the point of being lynched? Yes, we do that. That's when some scum players will fake claim, by the way, creating wifom ... that latter point being another reason mass role claiming too early doesn't work well for town. Mass claiming later in the game ... after a few nights and some info has been gathered ... has shown to be very advantageous for town, though.

There is one game I recall where a certain newcomer to ratz mafia managed to get a mass role claim within the first couple of days and his team went on to win the game. He turned out to be scum don, iirc. 8-)

However, I agree with Athene's take ... for now. There's a possibility Andrew is the traitor, but I'm leaning townie with different mafia cultural baggage.

This game of amok's is reminding me of her last game where she got kinda caught up in defending her idea and therefore didn't seem to get on with scum-hunting ... she flipped town that game. amok, I get what you're saying, but you seem to be missing a couple of points that have been made more than once. I agree with you (and UT's recent post) that MZ's info doesn't clear him.

DP's looking like getting my vote today. The vote on Andrew looks opportunistic and clunky.
It's neither, and well thought out on my part(IMO, YMMV), although granted that I haven't shared those reasons yet.
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Re: MGS3: Snake Eater Mafia - Tactical Espionage Action DAY

Post by Feck » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:09 pm

Don't Panic wrote:
Feck wrote:Now that's harsh DP .
Your point?
Just thinking so far ......... I'll think more tomorrow.
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Post by b.ternarius » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:16 pm

I'm biting my tongue here, Feck :P

Andrew, I skimmed that game's first few pages - yep, very different mafia culture.

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Post by Zigmen » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:17 pm

@@Vote Athene@@

She seems to be making sense and catching a few of the same vibes I've been catching. Always good to get her viewed early as well in case I'm wrong.

##Vote Charlou##

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Post by Azathoth » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:18 pm

##unvote DP##

Seeing as he is playing now. Going for a reread to see where I'm putting it
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Post by Uselesstwit » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:23 pm

i think mz, char and b.tern would be my top three so far today. I'm getting a town feel from shizzle, or at least a dramatic shift from his last scum game.
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Post by Feck » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:26 pm

Could someone who can count do a vote count PLS.
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Post by irretating » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:31 pm

Feck wrote:Could someone who can count do a vote count PLS.
that rules out UT

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Post by Uselesstwit » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:33 pm

it does, i have no clue, and am to lazy atm to go back and get one.
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Re: MGS3: Snake Eater Mafia - Tactical Espionage Action DAY

Post by Feck » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:33 pm

irretating wrote:
Feck wrote:Could someone who can count do a vote count PLS.
that rules out UT

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Re: MGS3: Snake Eater Mafia - Tactical Espionage Action DAY

Post by Azathoth » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:37 pm

##vote charlou##

her play screams sucking up, whiteknighty scum to me. This post in particular:


If it looks like I'm going to get lynched, why not out my information to save myself? Even if I get killed that night, it will be one less kill form scum starting day 2 because they had to waste their night kill on me, rather than somebody else because town lynched me. That's what I'm not getting about this no to claims, but yes to lynch on day 1 approach.[/quote]

Outing if you're on the point of being lynched? Yes, we do that. That's when some scum players will fake claim, by the way, creating wifom ... that latter point being another reason mass role claiming too early doesn't work well for town. Mass claiming later in the game ... after a few nights and some info has been gathered ... has shown to be very advantageous for town, though.
charlou wrote:There is one game I recall where a certain newcomer to ratz mafia managed to get a mass role claim within the first couple of days and his team went on to win the game. He turned out to be scum don, iirc. 8-)

However, I agree with Athene's take ... for now. There's a possibility Andrew is the traitor, but I'm leaning townie with different mafia cultural baggage.

This game of amok's is reminding me of her last game where she got kinda caught up in defending her idea and therefore didn't seem to get on with scum-hunting ... she flipped town that game. amok, I get what you're saying, but you seem to be missing a couple of points that have been made more than once. I agree with you (and UT's recent post) that MZ's info doesn't clear him.

DP's looking like getting my vote today. The vote on Andrew looks opportunistic and clunky.
Outside the ordered universe is that amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity—the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes.

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Re: MGS3: Snake Eater Mafia - Tactical Espionage Action DAY

Post by Azathoth » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:37 pm

bleh messed the tags
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Post by Azathoth » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:40 pm

Zigmen wrote:Aza and B.Tern, why are you holding the new guy's feet to the fire on day 1?
Why not? It was only a prod for a reaction
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Re: MGS3: Snake Eater Mafia - Tactical Espionage Action DAY

Post by irretating » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:50 pm

dammit, so you mean my initial reaction to charlou was right, that she is scummy? I'm going to have to go reread her posts, because I thought I saw town charlou posting later on...

and yes, I'll get a vote tally :brood:

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