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[FBM]

Ah. Re-read the OP. Thought she was the spiritual humanist. Never mind.

Same ... ish ... That's the vague bit for me ... but I'm sure the proposed sign refers to the occupant.

I don't know much about spiritual humanism, but couldn't one be both that and an atheist?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

John, you need one these signs.

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I'm sure the beard and the grin help to reinforce the message.

Dunno, nobody knocks.

Well, I had a storm bend the sign one time and I got lady and a young gentleman come to the door. When I answered she said, "Have you heard of The Watchtower?" I just pushed the sign open so they could read it. "Oh, I guess you have." They turned and left immediately.

[charlou]

Ah. Re-read the OP. Thought she was the spiritual humanist. Never mind.

Same ... ish ... That's the vague bit for me ... but I'm sure the proposed sign refers to the occupant.

I don't know much about spiritual humanism, but couldn't one be both that and an atheist?

Spiritual? The woo's not for me, personally, but others' mileage may vary.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

There's a sliding scale of woo, I think. I like "fantastic" movies, especially the ones Ray Harryhausen was involved in. But I don't think they reflect reality. On the far end of that scale are the folks who think "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" was a documentary "and we don't know it."

[FBM]

Ah. Re-read the OP. Thought she was the spiritual humanist. Never mind.

Same ... ish ... That's the vague bit for me ... but I'm sure the proposed sign refers to the occupant.

I don't know much about spiritual humanism, but couldn't one be both that and an atheist?

Spiritual? The woo's not for me, personally, but others' mileage may vary.

Nor for me, but does spiritual humanism imply theism? I don't know, because every time I hear the word "spiritual" my brain turns off.

[charlou]

Ah. Re-read the OP. Thought she was the spiritual humanist. Never mind.

Same ... ish ... That's the vague bit for me ... but I'm sure the proposed sign refers to the occupant.

I don't know much about spiritual humanism, but couldn't one be both that and an atheist?

Spiritual? The woo's not for me, personally, but others' mileage may vary.

Nor for me, but does spiritual humanism imply theism? I don't know, because every time I hear the word "spiritual" my brain turns off.

I suppose it depends on ones definition of spiritual. In recent years I've come to ascribe a literal definition (ie metaphysical woo), so discount anything as spiritual because I don't subscribe to that, but I know some others use the word with more allegorical/poetic sentiments in mind.

[John_fi_Skye]

Didn't the aboriginal people in Australia traditionally believe that everything has spirits in it - trees, rivers, hills, etc? I've no idea whether they also had a god or gods, but it would certainly be possible to conceive of a world view in which there were all those spirits and no god. Would that then be an atheist world view? Possibly it would, by a narrow definition of "atheist"; but (with all due respect to those aboriginal people) I wouldn't believe in it either. So am I not an atheist, after all those years of thinking I was? Or am I an atheist-and-unbeliever-in-any-sort-of-claptrap?

I'll just stick to being an atheist, thanks. Hands up all those atheists reading this, who believe in spirits? (Apart from those we take with or without mixers to fortify us against daft philosophical discussions.)

[Hermit]

Hands up all those atheists reading this, who believe in spirits?

Include me out. I do get enchanted by, say, J.S.Bach's music. The appreciation of its spiritual aspect is an appreciation of something immaterial, but that does not extend to the belief in something supernatural (in the theistic/deistic/animistic sense) for me.