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Cain Now Has 3 Harassment Accusers

Post by Schneibster » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:42 am

They're popping out of the woodwork; Cain is reduced to accusing the other Republican campaigns of smearing him, which is just as bad if not worse for his image. Keep in mind this is currently the front-running campaign, though we all know how much that means a year from the election.

I think part of his popularity is that accusations of dog-whistling on race coming from Democrats have convinced at least some Republicans that their only defense against a whisper campaign is to select a black candidate. Good luck to them; this guy's a loser.

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Re: Cain Now Has 3 Harassment Accusers

Post by tattuchu » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:28 pm

I wish the women weren't gagged...by confidentially agreements so we could hear their side of the story. I have no love for Cain, but I wonder where the line is drawn between flirting and harassment.
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Schneibster wrote:They're popping out of the woodwork; Cain is reduced to accusing the other Republican campaigns of smearing him, which is just as bad if not worse for his image. Keep in mind this is currently the front-running campaign, though we all know how much that means a year from the election.

I think part of his popularity is that accusations of dog-whistling on race coming from Democrats have convinced at least some Republicans that their only defense against a whisper campaign is to select a black candidate. Good luck to them; this guy's a loser.

Read all about it.
Or, he's like a bazillion other men who like women and women who like men, who try to find ways to get in their pants that doesn't rise to the level of "sexual harassment" under EEOC rules.

"Inappropriate comment" and "made me uncomfortable" are so subjective as to be entirely useless as evidence of "sexual harassment."

In the first place, in order to "harass" someone, there's a mens rea component that the perpetrator have an intention of causing alarm, dismay or fear. Simply making a comment related to the purported "victim's" sex doesn't meet that standard at all, given the fact that flirting with co-workers is still NOT against the law in the US.

These sorts of allegations always come out during campaigns, and they are a vile attempt at character assassination for what is perfectly ordinary and harmless male/female interaction in the workplace that happens all the time.

Need I remind everyone of Bill Clinton and his proclivities in that regard? Ask yourself honestly if you've never, ever, not even once made a sexually suggestive remark to a co-worker, even something as simple as complimenting them on their attire or for that matter opening a door for them. If you're a paragon of sexual workplace rectitude, then you can call Cain a "loser." Until then, he's not a loser, you're a hypocrite.

You actually think he's a "loser" I suspect simply because he's a black man who doesn't fit the liberal/progressive mould and you can't stand the idea of a conservative black as President. Neither, I suspect, can Mitt Romney.
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Post by Seth » Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:28 pm

tattuchu wrote:I wish the women weren't gagged...by confidentially agreements so we could hear their side of the story. I have no love for Cain, but I wonder where the line is drawn between flirting and harassment.
Indeed. But the reason for the gag-order is precisely because the allegations are so weak, but strong enough to start a whisper smear campaign, that it was in the best financial interests of the Association to settle. And the fact that the alleged "victim" agreed demonstrates that the alleged "harm" was so petty and insignificant that she was willing to settle upon an agreement to keep her yap shut about it. Personally, I think that the Association should deem that she's violated the gag order already and should sue her for return of the settlement money, which would leave her free to say what she likes about the case.
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Post by Schneibster » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:56 pm

tattuchu wrote:I wish the women weren't gagged...by confidentially agreements so we could hear their side of the story. I have no love for Cain, but I wonder where the line is drawn between flirting and harassment.
Somewhere north of the the US$35,000.00 settlement, I'd say.
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Post by Schneibster » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:44 am

Pardon me, that was the little one; the big one was US$45,000.00.

Meanwhile, the pot keeps boiling. From that notorious radical islamofascious communist website, Politico.

ETA: Apparently I'm not the only one who's confused. Cain's campaign was releasing details about the bigger one. That nobody had discussed before.

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Post by Poto » Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:06 am

Does Cain have a white wife who gives Tea Party speeches as well?

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Post by Seth » Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:58 am

Back to two now, since the first one has stated, through her lawyer, that she settled the claim and will not speak on it further. Probably a good idea, since she'd have to pay back the money...evidently the "harassment" wasn't all that bad.

So, this guy is with a girl he met in a bar at his apartment trying to get into her pants and he says, "Darling, if I gave you a million dollars, would you make love with me tonight?" The girl thinks about it and says, "Yes, I would." The guy says, "Would you do it for fifty bucks?" The girl, offended, says, "What do you think I am, a whore?" "We've already established that," says the guy, "Now we're just haggling over the price."
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Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:06 am

Seth wrote:Back to two now, since the first one has stated, through her lawyer, that she settled the claim and will not speak on it further.
Um, no, Seth, that's still three. Whether she settled or not doesn't absolve him of having harassed her.

You can't even count.
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Post by Seth » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:05 pm

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Seth wrote:Back to two now, since the first one has stated, through her lawyer, that she settled the claim and will not speak on it further.
Um, no, Seth, that's still three. Whether she settled or not doesn't absolve him of having harassed her.

You can't even count.
He is not, as you suggest, guilty until proven innocent, he's innocent until proven guilty by, in this case, a preponderance of the evidence in a court of law. That has not occurred, so he's still presumptively innocent. Further, she's no longer an accuser, and there is no proof (or even evidence) that he harassed her. That a settlement was paid is not proof (or even evidence) that harassment occurred. Companies frequently settle false claims simply as an economic expedient to protect the company from having to litigate a false claim, which is expensive, and the attendant bad press, which is hard to control.

Such false-claim settlements happen all the time, and that's why gag orders are imposed when such settlements are made, to prevent the individual from levying the same false allegation in the future.

So, back to two, and it's you who can't count and is mendaciously presuming guilt based on a mere accusation. Well, how about this: I accuse Schneibster of fucking little children.

Shall we presume you're guilty?

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Re: Cain Now Has 3 Harassment Accusers

Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:08 pm

Seth wrote:
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Seth wrote:Back to two now, since the first one has stated, through her lawyer, that she settled the claim and will not speak on it further.
Um, no, Seth, that's still three. Whether she settled or not doesn't absolve him of having harassed her.

You can't even count.
He is not, as you suggest, guilty until proven innocent,
This isn't a court.

You seem to be having a great deal of trouble with reality.
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