Jeff Randall - here's YOUR proof Jeff

[Jonesboy]

Stan Grof who worked with LSD "the GOdfather of LSD" said that anyone who was an atheist that took LSD in a good stroong pharmacological psychedlic dose 400mcg sooner or later had a death experience that left them believing either in god or some supernnatural conscious principle.

That's ironic. Because the Church mostly objected to lSD on the grounds that it gave a pseudo-religious experience.

So that's Jeff Randall's challenge. Take a pharamcological dose in focused surroundings. Will he take the challenge? or will he sctratch his beard?

[Jason]

400 Melbourne Cricket Grounds' worth of LSD to believe in god?

Lucy in the sky! Have I told you about the man on the hill? He's sitting there still.

[Animavore]

I can tell you for a fact that is bullshit.

[Tyrannical]

Stan Grof who worked with LSD "the GOdfather of LSD" said that anyone who was an atheist that took LSD in a good stroong pharmacological psychedlic dose 400mcg sooner or later had a death experience that left them believing either in god or some supernnatural conscious principle.

That's ironic. Because the Church mostly objected to lSD on the grounds that it gave a pseudo-religious experience.

So that's Jeff Randall's challenge. Take a pharamcological dose in focused surroundings. Will he take the challenge? or will he sctratch his beard?

The prohibition is mentioned in the Bible too, but it had to do with drunken revelations.

[Tyrannical]

How many tabs of blotter is 400mcg?

[FBM]

Back in my trippin' days, I saw God pretty often. More than anything, he resembled the universe, except that the universe exists.

[Feck]

LSD => God not on that tiny little dose I can just about see the funny side on that dose . And even if it were true all you are proving is that people brought up in culture of spirituality get spiritual when they trip . I've given dozens their first trip ,either LSD or mushrooms and can tell you it is rare that people very from a set number of themes and clichés . Would you like to know the ones most people say Before they start having a bad time ? would you like to know the ones that mean you shouldn't leave them alone even for a second ? Or the ones that mean you are the cause of the anxiety and it's time to get another baby sitter for them ? Or the ones girls say when they are horny but don't want to say anything ? Sorry Jones but your but your second hand anecdotal evidence is not impressing anyone . Esp the many members of this Forum who know a fuck of a lot more about Tripping than you do .

[Atheist-Lite]

Angel dust is a better way there. You don't need to keep taking it, once you've fried the noggin it stays fried with PCP.

[Rum]

I used LSD quite a lot in the early 70s not long after it was introduced/widely circulated. I had a number of experiences which I would have called 'spiritual' back then. I also had a few that were profoundly isolating and existentially 'sterile' to the extent that everything lost context and meaning - almost as if everything was dead - the opposite in some ways to 'spiritual'. I experienced some very extreme states of consciousness and delusion one way or another. I think that was what characterised the experiences - their extreme nature and the utterly restructured way that my consciousness could work.

I don't think anyone needs to bring god into it.

[Mysturji]

I can tell you from personal experience that the OP is bullshit.
Same goes for a functionally equivalent dose of psilocybin mushrooms.
The problem is "...had a death experience that left them believing either in god or some supernnatural conscious principle."
Having a feeling that the Universe is all connected and nurturing while you're tripping is very different from believing in woo-woo the next day.

[Feck]

Angel dust is a better way there. You don't need to keep taking it, once you've fried the noggin it stays fried with PCP.

How much did you take ?

[Feck]

I like PROOF that we can laugh at quite so hard ... What's next Jonesy ? you do make me laugh

[FBM]

...Would you like to know the ones most people say Before they start having a bad time ? would you like to know the ones that mean you shouldn't leave them alone even for a second ? Or the ones that mean you are the cause of the anxiety and it's time to get another baby sitter for them ?...

Off-topic, but I never had a bad trip. Can't even imagine how it's possible, unless you got something laced with something vile.

[Tyrannical]

LSD => God not on that tiny little dose I can just about see the funny side on that dose . And even if it were true all you are proving is that people brought up in culture of spirituality get spiritual when they trip . I've given dozens their first trip ,either LSD or mushrooms and can tell you it is rare that people very from a set number of themes and clichés . Would you like to know the ones most people say Before they start having a bad time ? would you like to know the ones that mean you shouldn't leave them alone even for a second ? Or the ones that mean you are the cause of the anxiety and it's time to get another baby sitter for them ? Or the ones girls say when they are horny but don't want to say anything ? Sorry Jones but your but your second hand anecdotal evidence is not impressing anyone . Esp the many members of this Forum who know a fuck of a lot more about Tripping than you do .

I'm sure that 400mcg dosage is for first time trippers. How would you be on 6 hits at once your first time

[Mysturji]

How many tabs of blotter is 400mcg?

I have heard that the average blotter is 125 - 25- micrograms.
No idea how accurate that is.