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Re: Leftist Madness on US College Campuses - Evergreen Colle

Post by Forty Two » Wed May 31, 2017 2:53 pm

Animavore wrote:I hope when I'm older I'm not as envious and obsessed with what the youth are are getting up to in school. It seems unhealthy, and only one step away from hanging around the playground in a trench coat.
Well, it's not grammar school or high school, this is university, and the goings on relate to some of the premier institutions of higher learning in the world. These are the institutions preparing adults to be able to think and to participate in society at large, including the workplace. What they do and learn there, they will bring to their post-collegiate lives.

Hand-waving it as the goings-on of kids on a playground is missing the import of the matter, IMO. These events make the news almost daily, and are being followed and debated by prominent skeptics like Michael Shermer and others who also find the issues interesting and important enough to merit some detailed discussion.

If you don't agree, that's fine. Go talk about what you are interested in.
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Re: Leftist Madness on US College Campuses - Evergreen Colle

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed May 31, 2017 2:57 pm

FFS go and watch the girls playing netball.
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Re: Leftist Madness on US College Campuses - Evergreen Colle

Post by Forty Two » Wed May 31, 2017 3:05 pm

Animavore wrote::hehe:

It's too easy to further wind up people already wound up over non-issues. Late teens are idealistic idiots. In other news; the property of the wetness of water is an illusion created by our brain through our senses and not an inherent property of the complex interactions of particulate things-in-themselves.
What's wrong with discussing the bullshit being foisted by idealistic idiots? It's fun. Their behavior is so ridiculous, it's like traveling freakshow. It's like a train wreck or a two headed snake. It's hard to look away.

They are such total toolbags, too. I find it utterly amazing that anyone could think as they do, and I sincerely wonder how it is that they can come by the ridiculous notions they get carried away with. Take the incident at Evergreen. Evergreen has a policy of annually having a day of absence. The day of absence involved "people of color" deciding, if they want to, to be absent from the college one day of the year to make a point. This year, they changed the day of absence from "we will be absent" to "you will be absent" (pointing to white people). One professor wrote an email saying that he does not support the racist proposal, saying that he will not stay off campus that day even though he is a white man. These social justice warriors then flip out, and not only protest him and demand his resignation, but actively threaten violence, and actively seek him out, stopping cars, demanding information as to who the occupants of the cars were, and such. Police warned the professor to stay off campus because he was in physical danger. And, then we watch the video footage of the behavior of these adults, and see exactly how just insane they are. Their behavior is just manifestly bizarre to the point that the incident doesn't even seem real. It's hard to believe they're even serious.

How can they come to think like they do? I find it fascinating, and thus far inexplicable.
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Re: Leftist Madness on US College Campuses - Evergreen Colle

Post by Forty Two » Wed May 31, 2017 3:19 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:FFS go and watch the girls playing netball.
It's odd that these topics would engender such anger on the part of some of you. There are plenty of other threads to involve yourself with. You can also create threads that you feel are worthy of discussion. Yet, instead, you direct your attention to trying to get me not to discuss topics I'm interested in.

The creation of threads does not limit in any way your ability to participate in other threads, or to create threads of your own. If you have something better, more interesting or more fun to talk about, bring the topic up. Do you need things spoon fed for you?
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Re: Leftist Madness on US College Campuses - Evergreen Colle

Post by Animavore » Wed May 31, 2017 3:44 pm

Sure. They're behaviour is ridiculous to older people, but I'm sure it makes sense to them.
It's just
Remember, though, that you used "leftists" in the title of this thread. Not, "idealistic youth". You tried to draw a parallel between left leaning people in general and a bunch of hormonal kids and now you're trying to backtrack. There's also a hint in your title that this is madness and not angst. You have, of late, been trying your best to show the left as been the ones who are crazy to justify your monumental mistake of backing and supporting the current, poisonous, right-wing ideology which is bringing your country to its knees and making the US a mockery on the World stage. I believe some call that "gaslighting".

You are becoming desperate and attacking college kids to make some sort of universal point about the left is clutching straws.


I can't find it, the search words are too ubiquitous, but you once posted, when criticising Obama, that if Trump turned out to be a bad President you'd be no less relentless. Yet here we are.
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Re: Leftist Madness on US College Campuses - Evergreen Colle

Post by Forty Two » Wed May 31, 2017 3:55 pm

Animavore wrote:Sure. They're behaviour is ridiculous to older people, but I'm sure it makes sense to them.
That's the fascinating issue. How in the world can it make sense to them? What they say is bizarre, irrational and simply unintelligible.

Animavore wrote:
It's just
Remember, though, that you used "leftists" in the title of this thread. Not, "idealistic youth".
Because they're leftists, not mere "idealistic youth" of a cross-section of ideological viewpoints. Maybe that's what's angering those here who consider themselves on the Left. The fact that it's leftists who are creating this bizarre and surreal picture....
Animavore wrote: You tried to draw a parallel between left leaning people in general and a bunch of hormonal kids and now you're trying to backtrack.
I haven't backtracked one iota.
Animavore wrote: There's also a hint in your title that this is madness and not angst.
Something is amiss.
Something has gotten into these wackos to make them this wacko. Some theories are out there - like the influence of postmodernism and Marxist theory; however, I can't believe these freaks are educated enough to understand either of those items consciously.
Animavore wrote: You have, of late, been trying your best to show the left as been the ones who are crazy to justify your monumental mistake of backing and supporting the current, poisonous, right-wing ideology which is bringing your country to its knees and making the US a mockery on the World stage. I believe some call that "gaslighting".
Trump was less right wing than any other Republican candidate. I, however, do not have to "show" that the left are crazy. They are showing that themselves.

Gaslighting is trying to make someone think they're nuts. These people are nuts. Either that, or they're idiots. Or both. I'm not trying to gaslight them.
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You are becoming desperate and attacking college kids to make some sort of universal point about the left is clutching straws.
They're not kids. I wasn't a "kid" in college, and neither are they. And, the left is clutching at straws. This is just one aspect of it. And by left, I mean the hard left, not the left of center moderates, or liberals.
Animavore wrote: I can't find it, the search words are too ubiquitous, but you once posted, when criticising Obama, that if Trump turned out to be a bad President you'd be no less relentless. Yet here we are.
He's been President for four months, so I don't think we can judge him a success or failure. This came up under Obama, and years into his first term, folks were saying it's too soon to judge. Well, at least give Trump a year to sort some things out. And, I don't care about the bells and whistles or the niceties. I don't care if he says the right thing or puts ketchup on his steak, or calls the President of Taiwan and questions the One China Policy, etc. I don't care if he "calls out" NATO. This stuff is window dressing. It's not important.
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Re: Leftist Madness on US College Campuses - Evergreen Colle

Post by Animavore » Wed May 31, 2017 4:00 pm

Hah. Disingenuous to the last.
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Re: Leftist Madness on US College Campuses - Evergreen Colle

Post by laklak » Wed May 31, 2017 4:30 pm

They'll grow up eventually. When I were lad we were manning the barricades and chanting "Hell No! We Won't Go!" and (my favorite) "Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh! You Know The Left Is Gonna Win!". Then I left the soft-n-cuddly cocoon of university and entered the Real Fucking World, where if you didn't show up for work because you were protesting the My Lai Massacre your ass got fired and you couldn't pay rent, and you ended up sleeping on your mate's sofa. I would have stayed at Uni much longer except Mummsie and Dadda decided that I needed to pay for my own shit and stopped those monthly checks, all because I flunked out of two semesters because I was busy protesting all the horrible injustice. I even told my Dad "I don't need your middle class money". ROFLMFAO! Pretty much the entirety of my life since then has been the pursuit of middle class money.

All those Deadheads and Hippies and Yippies went on to run Goldman Sachs and this current generation of Social Justice Snowflakes won't be any fucking different. It has always been thus, and so shall it always be.

I'm sure my Dad's generation got a few belly laughs watching the Real Fucking World fuck my entitled generation up our unlubed asses, I intend to do the same.
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Post by Animavore » Wed May 31, 2017 4:41 pm

Exactly, lak. You get this. 42 is acting astonished. The Bible throws so much shit that the odd turd sticks. Ecclesiastes 1:9 is right. There is nothing new under the Sun.

These little twerp are trying to find their place in the World. We've all been there. Even 42.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed May 31, 2017 5:42 pm

Yep lak and 42 has no understanding. The thing I miss these days is political awareness. That's why cunts like Trump can get into office.
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Post by Animavore » Wed May 31, 2017 5:44 pm

I think that's half the opposite of what I said.
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Post by JimC » Wed May 31, 2017 10:36 pm

As usual in these threads of 42, I would agree that this particular example of student protest is silly, absurd and PC gone mad, but disagree that it represents a real developing problem that impinges on broader society...
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:26 am

I'd like to see some impartial media on this in case the professor in question has a racist past. On the face of it, though, this does seem like another ridiculous overreaction by the regressive left.
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Post by Hermit » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:06 am

pErvin wrote:I'd like to see some impartial media on this in case the professor in question has a racist past.
Yes, and we don't know how those Youtube clips were edited. Everybody lies, you know. With the paucity of information at hand we cannot make judgements about the protesters. Has Bret Weinstein systematically marked assignments of non-Caucasian students down by 20%? Has he told them not to even bother sitting for exams? Have the protesters courteously remonstrated with him about his reference to them as government subsidised freeloaders? Did he reply by ordering to get their filthy shoes off his office carpet and resume the only job they are fit for - as cotton pickers? Nobody knows what they were or were not offended by.
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Re: Leftist Madness on US College Campuses - Evergreen Colle

Post by rainbow » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:28 am

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pErvin wrote:Meh
Nobody says you have to care about any given issue.
I care.

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