Why don't religious leaders..

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Why don't religious leaders..

Post by Rum » Fri May 04, 2012 6:58 pm

..have the following debate:

'My Religion is Better than Yours and why".

I'm half serious. Why do you think they wouldn't consider it?

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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Fri May 04, 2012 6:59 pm

Rum wrote:..have the following debate:

'My Religion is Better than Yours and why".

I'm half serious. Why do you think they wouldn't consider it?
Because they know they'd more-or-less get all of their own arguments thrown back at them.
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Post by Rum » Fri May 04, 2012 7:14 pm

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Rum wrote:..have the following debate:

'My Religion is Better than Yours and why".

I'm half serious. Why do you think they wouldn't consider it?
Because they know they'd more-or-less get all of their own arguments thrown back at them.
I'm not so sure. They must know that faith is about revelation and not rationalism, so perhaps they know they can't have a rational discussion.

Either that or they are full of crap of course.

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Post by Azathoth » Fri May 04, 2012 7:19 pm

There are craploads on youtube.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zep13DTe ... re=related[/youtube]
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri May 04, 2012 7:31 pm

Rum wrote:..have the following debate:

'My Religion is Better than Yours and why".

I'm half serious. Why do you think they wouldn't consider it?
Generally becasue religiosity is held, by the religious and the not-so-religious alike, to be a virtue-bestowing, privilege-endowing state of being. "They may be wrong, but at least they're not atheists!"


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Post by PsychoSerenity » Fri May 04, 2012 7:41 pm

Azathoth wrote:There are craploads on youtube.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zep13DTeu8w
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10 minutes was all I could stand.
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Post by Drewish » Fri May 04, 2012 7:44 pm

Azathoth wrote:There are craploads on youtube.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zep13DTe ... re=related
Second highest comment on that video:
Please let us agree, the greatest danger to the world is secularism for it knows no bounds of killing, look at the inside job of 9/11 ae911truthDOTorg - An organisation setup by Architects and Engineers
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Post by Azathoth » Fri May 04, 2012 7:49 pm

PsychoSerenity wrote:
Azathoth wrote:There are craploads on youtube.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zep13DTeu8w
:tearhair:
10 minutes was all I could stand.
You tried to watch it? :shock: You masochistic fuckwit. I just dumped the first result up there :biggrin:
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Post by Hermit » Fri May 04, 2012 8:02 pm

Rum wrote:
Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Rum wrote:..have the following debate:

'My Religion is Better than Yours and why".

I'm half serious. Why do you think they wouldn't consider it?
Because they know they'd more-or-less get all of their own arguments thrown back at them.
I'm not so sure. They must know that faith is about revelation and not rationalism, so perhaps they know they can't have a rational discussion.

Either that or they are full of crap of course.
There's a difference? :think:

I think a major factor for the reluctance to discuss which religion is better is a more or less conscious awareness that by questioning the validity of any one particular theology one opens the gate to questioning the validity of religions in general. That's why there are so many ecumenical movements and occasional sentiments expressing the belief that even a non-theist like, say, a Hindu can be admitted into the Christian heaven if he has lead a morally good life.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri May 04, 2012 8:06 pm

^^ :lol:
andrewclunn wrote:Second highest comment on that video:
Please let us agree, the greatest danger to the world is secularism for it knows no bounds of killing, look at the inside job of 9/11 ae911truthDOTorg - An organisation setup by Architects and Engineers
Where to begin with the fail in that comment? :doh:
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Re: Why don't religious leaders..

Post by Rum » Fri May 04, 2012 8:40 pm

Azathoth wrote:
PsychoSerenity wrote:
Azathoth wrote:There are craploads on youtube.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zep13DTeu8w
:tearhair:
10 minutes was all I could stand.
You tried to watch it? :shock: You masochistic fuckwit. I just dumped the first result up there :biggrin:
I did say 'religious leaders' rather than 'self taught' as one of the speakers is..I lasted about three minutes btw.

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Post by Thumpalumpacus » Fri May 04, 2012 8:48 pm

I think it's in part to avoid the doubled edge, and in part because they prefer audiences which don't talk back.
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Post by Animavore » Fri May 04, 2012 8:49 pm

Damn! I was hoping that title was going to be continued with "... just fuck off".
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Post by Drewish » Fri May 04, 2012 8:56 pm

If two religious leaders debate, the result will simply be to cause the audience to question and wonder, "Why do I believe this faith over that faith?" In fact the existence of so many people believing other things is a big reason why so many people first question their beliefs.
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Re: Why don't religious leaders..

Post by Rum » Fri May 04, 2012 9:24 pm

Having given this some drunken thought it occurs to me that there is some weird human need to believe that we are in possession of the absolute truth of things. It seems very strong. Therefore why risk our absolute truth but putting it up against the other guy who also has possession of the absolute truth!

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