The 'atrocity' of Australia's detention regime

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The 'atrocity' of Australia's detention regime

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:00 pm

The worst I've seen – trauma expert lifts lid on 'atrocity' of Australia's detention regime
Exclusive: In his 43-year career, Paul Stevenson has worked in the aftermath of the Bali bombings and the Boxing Day tsunami but says nothing he witnessed was as bad as the treatment of asylum seekers on Nauru and Manus

In my entire career of 43 years I have never seen more atrocity than I have seen in the incarcerated situations of Manus Island and Nauru.”

Paul Stevenson has had a life in trauma. The psychologist and traumatologist has spent 40 years helping people make sense of their lives in the aftermath of disaster, of terrorist attacks, bombings and mass murders, of landslides, fires and tsunamis.

He’s written a book about his experiences, Postcards from Ground Zero, and for his efforts in assisting the victims of the Bali bombings, the Australian government pinned an Order of Australia Medal to his chest.

Now, he says, it is the Australian government deliberately inflicting upon people the worst trauma he has ever seen.
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Post by cronus » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:25 pm

These are descendants of common criminals so what do you think is going on? :nono:
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Post by Hermit » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:27 pm

Basically, Australia has outsourced the building and management of offshore concentration camps for people, men, women and children, whose crime is to seek asylum. This has been going on for years, and because the three biggest political parties and about half the Australian public support this crime against humanity, there is next to no chance that the current policy on refugees will be changed any time soon. The callousness and inhumanity of it is unbelievable. It is really upsetting and makes me ashamed of my country. I also do what little I can to change the situation, but it's like pushing shit up hill.
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Post by Hermit » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:28 pm

Crumple wrote:These are descendants of common criminals so what do you think is going on? :nono:
Fuck off, you dumb cunt.
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Post by cronus » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:54 pm

Hermit wrote:
Crumple wrote:These are descendants of common criminals so what do you think is going on? :nono:
Fuck off, you dumb cunt.



You cornered the issue there.... :read:
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:16 pm

Hermit wrote:Basically, Australia has outsourced the building and management of offshore concentration camps for people, men, women and children, whose crime is to seek asylum. This has been going on for years, and because the three biggest political parties and about half the Australian public support this crime against humanity, there is next to no chance that the current policy on refugees will be changed any time soon. The callousness and inhumanity of it is unbelievable. It is really upsetting and makes me ashamed of my country. I also do what little I can to change the situation, but it's like pushing shit up hill.
I am quite sure plenty of Australians dont agree with this policy but it is a very convenient way to brush a problem under the carpet. What is going to happen to these people? If they are economic migrants they should be returned home as fast as possible.
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Post by Hermit » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:55 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Hermit wrote:Basically, Australia has outsourced the building and management of offshore concentration camps for people, men, women and children, whose crime is to seek asylum. This has been going on for years, and because the three biggest political parties and about half the Australian public support this crime against humanity, there is next to no chance that the current policy on refugees will be changed any time soon. The callousness and inhumanity of it is unbelievable. It is really upsetting and makes me ashamed of my country. I also do what little I can to change the situation, but it's like pushing shit up hill.
I am quite sure plenty of Australians dont agree with this policy but it is a very convenient way to brush a problem under the carpet. What is going to happen to these people? If they are economic migrants they should be returned home as fast as possible.
Nothing happens to those people, be they genuine asylum seekers - which almost 90% are - or opportunists. They stay where they are until they decide to accept an offer to be ferried back to their previous stop, or to Thailand, or anywhere else that is not Australian soil. The White Australia Policy, instituted by Australia's first Prime Minister in 1901 and abolished by Gough Whitlam in 1972, has returned with a vengeance, and is as ugly as ever.

Now I'm waiting for the usual fuckwits to pipe up with the usual crap about the dangers of letting foreigners into the country. Two of them are already on my ignore list, but there are plenty more to go around. I'm out of this thread.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:12 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
The worst I've seen – trauma expert lifts lid on 'atrocity' of Australia's detention regime
Exclusive: In his 43-year career, Paul Stevenson has worked in the aftermath of the Bali bombings and the Boxing Day tsunami but says nothing he witnessed was as bad as the treatment of asylum seekers on Nauru and Manus

In my entire career of 43 years I have never seen more atrocity than I have seen in the incarcerated situations of Manus Island and Nauru.”

Paul Stevenson has had a life in trauma. The psychologist and traumatologist has spent 40 years helping people make sense of their lives in the aftermath of disaster, of terrorist attacks, bombings and mass murders, of landslides, fires and tsunamis.

He’s written a book about his experiences, Postcards from Ground Zero, and for his efforts in assisting the victims of the Bali bombings, the Australian government pinned an Order of Australia Medal to his chest.

Now, he says, it is the Australian government deliberately inflicting upon people the worst trauma he has ever seen.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:13 am

Hermit wrote:Basically, Australia has outsourced the building and management of offshore concentration camps for people, men, women and children, whose crime is to seek asylum. This has been going on for years, and because the three biggest political parties and about half the Australian public support this crime against humanity, there is next to no chance that the current policy on refugees will be changed any time soon. The callousness and inhumanity of it is unbelievable. It is really upsetting and makes me ashamed of my country. I also do what little I can to change the situation, but it's like pushing shit up hill.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:14 am

Hermit wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Hermit wrote:Basically, Australia has outsourced the building and management of offshore concentration camps for people, men, women and children, whose crime is to seek asylum. This has been going on for years, and because the three biggest political parties and about half the Australian public support this crime against humanity, there is next to no chance that the current policy on refugees will be changed any time soon. The callousness and inhumanity of it is unbelievable. It is really upsetting and makes me ashamed of my country. I also do what little I can to change the situation, but it's like pushing shit up hill.
I am quite sure plenty of Australians dont agree with this policy but it is a very convenient way to brush a problem under the carpet. What is going to happen to these people? If they are economic migrants they should be returned home as fast as possible.
Nothing happens to those people, be they genuine asylum seekers - which almost 90% are - or opportunists. They stay where they are until they decide to accept an offer to be ferried back to their previous stop, or to Thailand, or anywhere else that is not Australian soil. The White Australia Policy, instituted by Australia's first Prime Minister in 1901 and abolished by Gough Whitlam in 1972, has returned with a vengeance, and is as ugly as ever.

Now I'm waiting for the usual fuckwits to pipe up with the usual crap about the dangers of letting foreigners into the country. Two of them are already on my ignore list, but there are plenty more to go around. I'm out of this thread.
Yeah, don't blame you. I'm surprised the usual suspects haven't found this thread yet.
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Post by Tyrannical » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:14 am

Fuck the asylum seekers. Let them go find some Asian or Muslim country to leech off of.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:25 am

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Post by JimC » Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:34 am

Tyrannical wrote:Fuck the asylum seekers. Let them go find some Asian or Muslim country to leech off of.
This post manages to be both racist and wilfully clumsy in sentence construction...
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Post by mistermack » Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:53 am

Scot Dutchy wrote: What is going to happen to these people? If they are economic migrants they should be returned home as fast as possible.
They choose to stay where they are, rather than take a free ticket home.

Fuck em. It's their choice.

Congratulations to Australia, for an intelligent response to freeloaders.
It seems to have effectively stemmed the trickle, that became a flow, and threatened to become a flood of boat people.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:31 am

mistermack wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote: What is going to happen to these people? If they are economic migrants they should be returned home as fast as possible.
They choose to stay where they are, rather than take a free ticket home.

Fuck em. It's their choice.

Congratulations to Australia, for an intelligent response to freeloaders.
It seems to have effectively stemmed the trickle, that became a flow, and threatened to become a flood of boat people.
Here they dont have a choice.
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