...and they all lived happily ever after.We're going home! We won! It's over! America! We brought democracy to Iraq! I love you!

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...and they all lived happily ever after.We're going home! We won! It's over! America! We brought democracy to Iraq! I love you!
http://socialistworker.org/2010/08/17/t ... -that-isntON THE surface, that appears to be case, but it's not in fact true. Obama plans to retain 50,000 soldiers in Iraq after the supposed withdrawal of combat troops. He is merely re-branding these remaining combat troops as advisers and trainers.
Ummm....how is it that George Bush still controls the military and Iraq operations, along with payments on "crooked contracts," now that the good guys have been in power since January, 2009?mistermack wrote:Yeh, they're all off home, apart from a mere 50,000 troops, who are just there risking their lives so that the friends of George Bush get paid off on the crooked contracts that they imposed while they were dictators.
They call it a trillion dollar investment. It's atually just a trillion dollar rip-off.
And they said it wasn't about the oil!!
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good guys? sarcasm detector going off? Damn things not working properly lately.Coito ergo sum wrote:Ummm....how is it that George Bush still controls the military and Iraq operations, along with payments on "crooked contracts," now that the good guys have been in power since January, 2009?mistermack wrote:Yeh, they're all off home, apart from a mere 50,000 troops, who are just there risking their lives so that the friends of George Bush get paid off on the crooked contracts that they imposed while they were dictators.
They call it a trillion dollar investment. It's atually just a trillion dollar rip-off.
And they said it wasn't about the oil!!
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Well that's pretty clear. I saw the Iraqis on the tv this evening saying the americans should piss off now. So I expect they'll all be off then. Or maybe not.The Mad Hatter wrote:The best part is that the US's agreement means if Iraq wants them to leave they just have to tell them to. Just as it is with Japan and Germany.
But let's ignore that little caveat because it doesn't fit with our picture of the Imperialist Scum.
Yeah, good guys, at least as far as Obama's supporters were chanting in 2008 and 2009. He was going to close Guantanamo (check), bring our troops home by the end of 2009, with the exception of a "small number of troops to secure the embassy" (check), stop warrantless wiretapping, repeal the Patriot Act (or at least its "bad" parts), end rendition to foreign countries for interrogations (check), close CIA overseas prisons (check), fix the economy (check)....oh, wait... "check" means that thing got done.... lolsandinista wrote:good guys? sarcasm detector going off? Damn things not working properly lately.Coito ergo sum wrote:Ummm....how is it that George Bush still controls the military and Iraq operations, along with payments on "crooked contracts," now that the good guys have been in power since January, 2009?mistermack wrote:Yeh, they're all off home, apart from a mere 50,000 troops, who are just there risking their lives so that the friends of George Bush get paid off on the crooked contracts that they imposed while they were dictators.
They call it a trillion dollar investment. It's atually just a trillion dollar rip-off.
And they said it wasn't about the oil!!
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That depends which Iraqi you're talking about. They tend to want us out, but they tend to also not want what would immediately replace us if we move too soon or improperly.mistermack wrote:Well that's pretty clear. I saw the Iraqis on the tv this evening saying the americans should piss off now.The Mad Hatter wrote:The best part is that the US's agreement means if Iraq wants them to leave they just have to tell them to. Just as it is with Japan and Germany.
But let's ignore that little caveat because it doesn't fit with our picture of the Imperialist Scum.
Maybe the one's elected?mistermack wrote:[
So I expect they'll all be off then. Or maybe not.
Maybe by Iraq you mean the iraqis who were put in power by the americans?
LOL - of course, the US is "all powerful" and they couldn't possibly get us to leave. Keep reassuring yourself that the US is the all powerful controller of all world affairs - it makes it easier for you to blame the US for everything. After all, if only the US would behave itself, all the world would be like a day at the beach, and the lions would lie down with the lambs......mistermack wrote: I'm sure THEY are going to ask them to leave. Like turkeys voting for christmas.
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It does.Pensioner wrote:The oil in Iraq should belong to the Iraqi people,
Except when the Iraqis sell.Pensioner wrote:
not the Americans or BP or the Chinese or anyone else,
Really? Who? Which multinationals are getting the free oil?Pensioner wrote:
and it should not belong to the corrupt Iraqi politicians. Some working class Iraqis are trying to set up non sectarian trade unions and they are being arrested, murdered and harassed just because they are opposed to giving the oil wealth away to the multi nationals and the corporations.
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