Parenting with a .45

[MrJonno]

hey MrJonno the option to move next to me still holds and I only have 4 guns

Welcome to move next to me, bring your guns and let me know when you are coming. You will get free bed ,board and healthcare for least 5 years

[hadespussercats]

Every time I want to retire a device the first thing my son wants to know is can we take it out to the range and shoot the shit out of it? And he is so excited.

All I can think about is having to clean up afterwards, so I say "no".
Maybe we should just take them to the range and shoot the shit out of them.
He can clean up.

What a well brought up son, maybe you should encourage him to set things on fire as well, a can of petrol and matches for this birthday.
Get him onto explosives and when the terminators rise he will be ready to lead the human race to salvation

Why don't you go fuck yourself.
I'll not tolerate you speaking about my son in this derogatory manner.
You are an ignorant asshole.

Gallstones, while Mr Jonno's post was crass and insensitive, please try not to resort to personal attacks in such cases. Please remember our rules http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3449 on personal attacks. Thanks.

I knew this was coming, but it was worth it.

[Gallstones2]

Free room and board????? you must live in one of those backward countries with no rights to protect yourself

[MrJonno]

Free room and board????? you must live in one of those backward countries with no rights to protect yourself

Right to medical care protects me fine

[Svartalf]

Until you stumble on some chavs who won't like you.

[MrJonno]

Until you stumble on some chavs who won't like you.

Take my chances with chavs than cancer

[Gallstones]

" When you're old enough, we both know you're not going to be retired to a care home it's the gun range for you, missy!"

She might prefer that, Lozzer. Out with a bang, not a whimper.

When they come for me they better have a bigger arsenal than I, cause I'm barricading myself in and shooting it out.
I won't go willingly.

And I'll be wearin' my boots too so they will be on when they don't take me alive.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

" When you're old enough, we both know you're not going to be retired to a care home it's the gun range for you, missy!"

She might prefer that, Lozzer. Out with a bang, not a whimper.

When they come for me they better have a bigger arsenal than I, cause I'm barricading myself in and shooting it out.
I won't go willingly.

And I'll be wearin' my boots too so they will be on when they don't take me alive.

A very senior member of the Missouri National Guard said he wouldn't fancy trying to do a "police action" at my house.

[hadespussercats]

Every time I want to retire a device the first thing my son wants to know is can we take it out to the range and shoot the shit out of it? And he is so excited.

All I can think about is having to clean up afterwards, so I say "no".
Maybe we should just take them to the range and shoot the shit out of them.
He can clean up.

What a well brought up son, maybe you should encourage him to set things on fire as well, a can of petrol and matches for this birthday.
Get him onto explosives and when the terminators rise he will be ready to lead the human race to salvation

Why don't you go fuck yourself.
I'll not tolerate you speaking about my son in this derogatory manner.
You are an ignorant asshole.

Gallstones, while Mr Jonno's post was crass and insensitive, please try not to resort to personal attacks in such cases. Please remember our rules http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3449 on personal attacks. Thanks.

I agree completely with Gallstones, and there are some "crass and insensitive" comments that deserve precisely the response she gave, so fuck off.

Seth, lots of people agree completely with Gallstones' sentiment. But there are rules about how sentiment gets expressed that apply to all of us here. Even she said she knew the reminder was coming.

My sense of you is that you value rules being applied equally, regardless of circumstance.

[Robert_S]

Stupid to destroy the computer. I would marched her into Goodwill have her hand it over to them.

I don't agree with him destroying the laptop, but like how he responded to her facebook comment.

I totally agree with that.

He seems like the kind that, once he's decided he's in the right...

will destroy the tool rather than disscipline who used it.

Yeah. Using guns and destruction to make the child rearing point is what turns me off here. She's petulant and immature in a facebook rant, but she's a child and immature by definition. He's an adult and he sinks to the same level.

I'd like to qualify that statement because a conversation I had elsewhere on the web made me think a little more.

When my father handed me a gun to shoot at a target for the first time, it was awesome on so many levels. First, guns go "bang" and for a lot of boys, that alone makes them great fun. Also, they can make other things go "boom", "splat" and so on which adds to the awesomeness. Second, it was part of the adult world that I was given access to, even if it was highly supervised. But mostly, it was an expression of trust and contemplating just how much I was trusted made me feel validated and empowered (even though I didn't know the words at the time) in a profound way. Guns were the most dangerous thing I knew of and here was one in my hand!

So the point is, guns can be used positively in child rearing. I still think, based on just what was presented in the video, that the father was a massive douche and what he did was overkill on orders of magnitude greater than a young girl bitching about chores to her friends.

[Seth]

Seth, lots of people agree completely with Gallstones' sentiment. But there are rules about how sentiment gets expressed that apply to all of us here. Even she said she knew the reminder was coming.

My sense of you is that you value rules being applied equally, regardless of circumstance.

Doesn't mean I can't express my displeasure with MrJonno or the Mods. Since I can't directly tell MrJonno what I think of him, I have to express it more circumspectly, through a proxy.

[Seth]

hey MrJonno the option to move next to me still holds and I only have 4 guns

Welcome to move next to me, bring your guns and let me know when you are coming. You will get free bed ,board and healthcare for least 5 years

We'll send an advance notice we're coming. Be expecting it constantly because it'll arrive as a very sudden surprise. You won't ever hear or see it till it arrives.

[Robert_S]

Seth, lots of people agree completely with Gallstones' sentiment. But there are rules about how sentiment gets expressed that apply to all of us here. Even she said she knew the reminder was coming.

My sense of you is that you value rules being applied equally, regardless of circumstance.

Doesn't mean I can't express my displeasure with MrJonno or the Mods. Since I can't directly tell MrJonno what I think of him, I have to express it more circumspectly, through a proxy.

We have no way of knowing for sure that MrJonno is not a gun nut in denial and behaving like certain homophobic Republican senators do about other issues.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

This thread...

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Seth, lots of people agree completely with Gallstones' sentiment. But there are rules about how sentiment gets expressed that apply to all of us here. Even she said she knew the reminder was coming.

My sense of you is that you value rules being applied equally, regardless of circumstance.

Doesn't mean I can't express my displeasure with MrJonno or the Mods. Since I can't directly tell MrJonno what I think of him, I have to express it more circumspectly, through a proxy.

So you insult the messenger?

Couldn't you tell, by the wording of the reminder, that the staff were also critical of Mr Jonno's post?

Can you possibly be unaware, given your long history here, that staff policy leaves us no option but to issue a reminder to Gallstones?

Finally, "I can't express my displeasure with MrJonno or the Mods"? Really? This is bollocks. You can express your displeasure with anything and everything here. What you can't do is do so in a way that includes personal insults and attacks.