I wonder how many of these men were islamic

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Re: I wonder how many of these men were islamic

Post by Rum » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:28 pm

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Re: I wonder how many of these men were islamic

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:45 pm

AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:[
I object to the White Knight defense because it's discriminatorily applied. It's like being against the death penalty not on cruelty grounds, but on the grounds that it is applied more frequently against blacks than whites.

I also object to it because it's stupid. The English language, when used in conversation, is full of generalizations. If we're having a discussion and Elessarina tells me that "Men are Pigs!" - I don't think we need the White Knights to ride to the rescue of males in general and make sure that everyone is cautioned that not "all" men are pigs.

We're all perfectly capable of understanding that when we say "Islam motivates X" that we don't mean that every single god damn Muslim does X. Heck, most of the religious conversations on this website would be difficult to even have if generalizations couldn't be used. We're always talking about religions' impact on the world. This religion does that, and this religion says that. Do we mean EVERY SINGLE self-identified member of those groups does X, Y or Z? Of course not.

The reality is, people swoop in more frequently to defend the honor of Islam (for whatever reason). I wish they'd stop. Islam can take care of itself, and needs no more champions.
It's still no reason to object to someone defending a group on rational grounds :roll:
Of course it is. I gave you two good reasons.

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Re: I wonder how many of these men were islamic

Post by AnInconvenientScotsman » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:55 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:[
I object to the White Knight defense because it's discriminatorily applied. It's like being against the death penalty not on cruelty grounds, but on the grounds that it is applied more frequently against blacks than whites.

I also object to it because it's stupid. The English language, when used in conversation, is full of generalizations. If we're having a discussion and Elessarina tells me that "Men are Pigs!" - I don't think we need the White Knights to ride to the rescue of males in general and make sure that everyone is cautioned that not "all" men are pigs.

We're all perfectly capable of understanding that when we say "Islam motivates X" that we don't mean that every single god damn Muslim does X. Heck, most of the religious conversations on this website would be difficult to even have if generalizations couldn't be used. We're always talking about religions' impact on the world. This religion does that, and this religion says that. Do we mean EVERY SINGLE self-identified member of those groups does X, Y or Z? Of course not.

The reality is, people swoop in more frequently to defend the honor of Islam (for whatever reason). I wish they'd stop. Islam can take care of itself, and needs no more champions.
It's still no reason to object to someone defending a group on rational grounds :roll:
Of course it is. I gave you two good reasons.
The hell they are. Because English is full of generalisations doesn't mean that people aren't allowed to be defended from those, and just because you assume everybody here is intelligent enough not to make sweeping generalisations does not make it so. Individuals and groups should be allowed to be defended from such generalisations, especially when they are not present to defend themselves - because people do it all the time doesn't make it wrong in specific situations, ever situation is singular and often unique.
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Re: I wonder how many of these men were islamic

Post by maiforpeace » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:58 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote: This thread is becoming yet another prime example of the "White Knight" chivalrous rush to the defense of Islam that is so common these days.
Muslims are the new Jew. :hehe:
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Re: I wonder how many of these men were islamic

Post by Toontown » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:40 pm

Lots of "sweeping generalization" cops around here. This sweeping generalization stuff must be very bad, to require so many cops watching for it.

Trouble is, CES seems to be on to something. The SweepGen cops only seem to be watching for sweepgens against muslims and leftists. Sweepgens against unprotected groups do routinely go unreported and unpunished.

Odd. Suspicious, even.

Yeah, I know. I've just made a sweeping generalization. I'll go quietly this time. But I'm watching you, SweepGen cops.

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Re: I wonder how many of these men were islamic

Post by normal » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:58 pm

Toontown wrote:Lots of "sweeping generalization" cops around here. This sweeping generalization stuff must be very bad, to require so many cops watching for it.

Trouble is, CES seems to be on to something. The SweepGen cops only seem to be watching for sweepgens against muslims and leftists. Sweepgens against unprotected groups do routinely go unreported and unpunished.

Odd. Suspicious, even.

Yeah, I know. I've just made a sweeping generalization. I'll go quietly this time. But I'm watching you, SweepGen cops.
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Re: I wonder how many of these men were islamic

Post by Pappa » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:01 pm

Normal wrote:
Toontown wrote:Lots of "sweeping generalization" cops around here. This sweeping generalization stuff must be very bad, to require so many cops watching for it.

Trouble is, CES seems to be on to something. The SweepGen cops only seem to be watching for sweepgens against muslims and leftists. Sweepgens against unprotected groups do routinely go unreported and unpunished.

Odd. Suspicious, even.

Yeah, I know. I've just made a sweeping generalization. I'll go quietly this time. But I'm watching you, SweepGen cops.
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Re: I wonder how many of these men were islamic

Post by Elessarina » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:06 pm

Pappa wrote:
I blame teh Jews!
I blame the Welsh

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Re: I wonder how many of these men were islamic

Post by Pappa » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:08 pm

Elessarina wrote:
Pappa wrote:
I blame teh Jews!
I blame the Welsh
Damn you English!!!!
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Re: I wonder how many of these men were islamic

Post by Azathoth » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:10 pm

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Outside the ordered universe is that amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity—the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes.

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Re: I wonder how many of these men were islamic

Post by Pappa » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:13 pm

I blame Noah. Fucking bastard! :lay:
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Re: I wonder how many of these men were islamic

Post by Tigger » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:54 pm

Anot mad u truncat o a wor b toont: Sweepgen. FF :la
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