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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by NineBerry » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:16 pm

No. Mandatory mask wearing started around April in Germany. Numbers were low until schools opened around August and people started to go on vacation all over the place as if there was no pandemic.

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Post by Strontium Dog » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:36 pm

Hermit wrote:
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Scot Dutchy wrote:
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MASKS KILL.
Allcaps don't make your assertion credible. Masks actually reduce the spread of covid when worn properly and in the right circumstances. This is how it works: The coronavirus spreads by being carried in the miniscule droplets of liquid people emit through their mouths and noses when they sneeze, cough, shout, speak or simply just breathe. Masks trap many or most of those droplets. That is how masks save lives.

Good grief, they're not still pushing the myth that asymptomatic people are spreading this disease, are they?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:39 pm

Hermit wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:16 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
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The sudden rise in numbers correlates with mandatory mask wearing and other lockdown measures.
Not in Australia, not in New Zealand, not in the Netherlands and not in any other countries.
Only when it suits you? It is as obvious as the day is long. Shops made it mandatory on 1st December. Since then it has shot up.
Comparing chalk and cheese again?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:45 pm

NineBerry wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:16 pm
No. Mandatory mask wearing started around April in Germany. Numbers were low until schools opened around August and people started to go on vacation all over the place as if there was no pandemic.
Masks did not help. Busy streets with people wearing any old rag and not keeping social distance. Our schools did not have any real effect on numbers. Schools are now closed so as to force parents to stay at home. Ridiculous!
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:47 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:36 pm
Hermit wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:22 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:55 am
MASKS KILL.
Allcaps don't make your assertion credible. Masks actually reduce the spread of covid when worn properly and in the right circumstances. This is how it works: The coronavirus spreads by being carried in the miniscule droplets of liquid people emit through their mouths and noses when they sneeze, cough, shout, speak or simply just breathe. Masks trap many or most of those droplets. That is how masks save lives.

Good grief, they're not still pushing the myth that asymptomatic people are spreading this disease, are they?
Not the only myth being kept alive.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Hermit » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:47 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:39 pm
Hermit wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:16 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:02 pm
The sudden rise in numbers correlates with mandatory mask wearing and other lockdown measures.
Not in Australia, not in New Zealand, not in the Netherlands and not in any other countries.
Only when it suits you? It is as obvious as the day is long. Shops made it mandatory on 1st December. Since then it has shot up.
Comparing chalk and cheese again?
Didn't you say the Dutch law is yet to be ratified by your upper house?

And what about Australia and New Zealand? Both countries knocked their respective waves of infections for six with their mandatory mask wearing and other lockdown measures.

And then there are these:

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by NineBerry » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:59 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:36 pm
Good grief, they're not still pushing the myth that asymptomatic people are spreading this disease, are they?
Asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic people are spreading this disease. This is true for most virus diseases by the way.

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Post by Strontium Dog » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:30 pm

NineBerry wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:59 pm
Strontium Dog wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:36 pm
Good grief, they're not still pushing the myth that asymptomatic people are spreading this disease, are they?
Asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic people are spreading this disease. This is true for most virus diseases by the way.
Not in numbers sufficient to sustain an epidemic they're not.

The virus is being spread by those with symptoms, who are 25 times more likely to infect others as asymptomatic people are.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:42 pm

News reducing the perception of harmfulness of this virus is banned.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:00 pm

Hermit,
It proves fuck all especially in America. Do you believe the crap of mask wearing lunatics? Of course you do. Just look at Europe No such claims have been made. Do you really think the Trump morons are going to accept regulations?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:10 pm

This is what happens when you lose your nerve and impose a strict lockdown:
Dutch cases hit record increase of almost 13,000

Coronavirus cases in the Netherlands rose by nearly 13,000 in 24 hours, hitting a new record for the second day in a row, data released by Dutch health authorities on Thursday showed.

The steep increase in infections comes just days after a tough, five-week lockdown was imposed in the Netherlands, where more than 10,000 people have died of Covid-19 during the pandemic.
That total is over nine months with a population of 17,5 million. Please.
No correlation? Dont insult.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by laklak » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:43 pm

13,164 new cases yesterday! A new record! Flor-DUH! Flor-DUH!
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Joe » Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:14 pm

Dang! You guys are serious overachievers. Colorado's coming down after a spike, which is good. The hospitals are hurting.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:42 pm

The UK is about 2000 shy of the April record of c.20,000 hospitalised cases.
Growing numbers of hospitals in England are running short of beds and having to divert patients elsewhere and cancel operations as the NHS struggles to cope with the resurgence of coronavirus, a Guardian analysis shows.

According to the NHS figures, hospitals had to tell ambulance crews to divert patients elsewhere 44 times last week – the highest number for four years.
With hospitals in London, Leicester and Northampton particularly hard hit, Chris Hopson, chief executive of NHS Providers, warned: “It already feels like we’re in the grips of a really bad winter, and there’s a very long way to go.”

The pressures are being compounded by the numbers of NHS staff who are themselves off work because of the virus, with doctors and NHS leaders saying that frontline services will come under even more intense strain in the next few weeks.

The warnings came as the UK recorded 35,383 positive cases on Thursday – the highest for a single day, with the total number of patients in hospital at more than 18,000, a rise of more almost 3,000 from the same time last week.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:59 pm

Does it seem to anyone like there will never be anything that makes this go away?

What evidence would convince? The vaccine is a hopeful spot for me, but will it mean things go back to normal? If it doesn't allow things to go back, is it a vaccine?

I do think therapeutics are continuing to improve, so that's hopeful. I don't know what will cause the authoritarian approach to back off though. Would a lower infection rate suffice? Vaccine up to 'herd immunity' levels?
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