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Re: Media Bias

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:55 am

Joe wrote:
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... Of course, politicians, irresponsible media bloviators, and random folk on the internet will fill the silence with speculative conspiracy theories to make money, advance their careers, or just feel special. The rest of us will wait for something to actually happen before spending much time on it. :coffee:
Indeed. Conspiracy theories exist as a causal bridge between apparently unconnected information. C follows B follows A, and the job of a good conspiracy theory is to find B, but where you only know A and C and already consider them significantly related.

The Bush family had dealings with a middle Eastern petrochemical investment fund (A) in which the Bin Laden family also had a financial interest (C). Bush was president when Bin Laden destroyed the twin towers, so there must be a causal link between the two (B).

In light of an assumption or a belief in the necessary relationship between A & C, and faced with the fact that nobody could actually find a direct causal link (B), the conspiracy theorist declares that that somebody, somewhere must be hiding that vital piece of information (B) that ties the two together. In fact, neither A nor C have to be true in the objective, factual sense, and B can literally be anything imaginable.

Unpicking Laptopgate(!) is difficult because it's several causal links deep, but I think the essence of it rests on accepting two main statements: (A) Hunter Biden's laptop contains some incriminating information, potentially criminal in nature, regarding his father and/or the family business, and (C) Joe Biden is not the legitimate president of the United States (for whatever reason is being given this week). Assuming a causal link between A & C grants the conspiracy theorist free reign to connect the two in any way imaginable, and the fact that (this week) the FBI are following due process stands as 'proof' that somebody, somewhere, is hiding that vital piece of info that would demonstrate, once and for all, that Biden's presidency is as illegitimate as the conspiracy theorists already assume.

Of course, the other feature of a good conspiracy theory is that it places the theorist at the centre of events, because it is only their formulation of a causal link between A & C which will ultimately validate their belief in the necessary causal relationship between A & C. The conspiracy theorist knows what they know, right(?) - they're just being denied the opportunity to prove it by some larger, more powerful, malignant force! And so the theorists are forced into what Hofstadter called "the paranoid leap into fantasy" in order to maintain the theory; as an article of faith in their own righteousness. In this regard, conspiracy theories are a form of of magical thinking of exactly the same kind that obliged people in times past to sacrifice their children to appease angry forest spirits.

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Re: Media Bias

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JimC wrote:
Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:48 pm
So, your suggestion is that the FBI is corruptly protecting wealthy people who have used Maxwell's services as a procurer.

Evidence?
The trafficking is not in question - she was arrested, convicted, about to be sentenced.

The Maxwell lady, I mean.

Who did she traffic kids to? Well, the FBI knows. Their protection of the wealthy customers of Maxwell may be incidental to other things, but I'm not going to pretend they don't know, or that they are above suspicion.

That would be nutty.
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Hard not to fill the silence with speculative conspiracy theories, isn't it? It's all too human a trait, and an enjoyable exercise of our imagination as long as we don't take it too seriously. :prof:
Yes. It's much simpler to just point out that they know, without a doubt, who paid Maxwell for child sex trafficking.

They've known, without a doubt, that most of the media was lying about the Biden Laptop scandal.

Just like the news agencies knew they were lying. Or those '50 Former Intelligence Officials' were all lying.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... e-russian/

But I bet their lies are so skillful, that even now, plenty of people will keep on believing. Might still think Biden deserved all those votes.

I wonder if he will still be the most popular president EVAR, now that all this has come out. Or what new lies the corporate news might tell about 'Russia, Russia, Russia'.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:42 pm

Significant if true. And Fauci must be in on it!
Maria Bartiromo floated a conspiracy theory that China is trying to "kill us off" using drugs and Covid in order to take over as the "number one superpower."

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:46 pm

China are an evil wannabe superpower, and America has been blighted by the Kung-flu and opioid pandemics.

Coincidence?? :tea:
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:49 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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and opioid pandemics.

I saw a cable show, where they interviewed a dope dealer, who re-sold opiods (fentanyl) and made large bank before getting busted.

They dug into how he sold drugs, ruined lives etc. Then they went up beyond him to the physicians who helped distribute so many prescriptions.

Then they went further up to the drug companies who seemed responsible.

But they didn't go see where pfizer et al were getting their fentanyl.

To me, pfizer looked to be just another layer of drug dealer, and not the 'source'.

The cable show didn't even mention which country was producing the most of the drug.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:53 pm

Why do you hate capitalism?
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Post by Svartalf » Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:59 pm

Are there bad reasons to?
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Brian Peacock wrote:
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Why do you hate capitalism?
Why do I hate the word Marx invented to unfairly 'frame' the world he couldn't succeed in?

I don't hate it, I just see it for what it is.

Marxists have to oppose freedom. It just sounds really unpopular when it is said clearly and plainly. So they pretend it is an 'ism' to be railed against.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:03 pm

And if people want to take take drugs shouldn't they be free to do so?
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Post by Svartalf » Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:18 pm

They certainly should, if they are able to do that responsibly
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:22 pm

New blues from a guy who the UN banned and manhandled (for asking awkward questions)
https://anchor.fm/s/12052a50/podcast/pl ... 613d2f.mp3

He seems to think the UN has failed Ukraine. Mostly, he is harshly critical of the organization, but I seldom hear him reaching the mainstream media.

Catchy tune though. Usually, he has short reports on SDNY, the UN and the ongoing legal cases.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:23 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:03 pm
And if people want to take take drugs shouldn't they be free to do so?
Well, maybe, but they shouldn't be able to test the drugs themselves.

'Florida House denies bill to decriminalize fentanyl strips'
On March 14, 2022, the Florida House of Representatives denied House Bill 6101, to remove testing equipment from drug paraphernalia. The bipartisan bill aimed to decriminalize fentanyl test strips in Florida to reduce the amount of overdose deaths.

According to the DEA, fentanyl is a form of a synthetic opioid that is 80 to 100 times stronger than morphine. The use of pharmaceutical fentanyl pertains to pain management treatment for cancer patients. Although fentanyl is produced for pharmaceutical purposes, the opioid is commonly used to enhance the potency of heroin.

Drug users commonly mistaken fentanyl as heroin or cocaine, resulting in numerous overdose deaths. According to the National Center for Drug Abuse Statistics, approximately 5,268 overdose deaths occur per year in the state of Florida. The number of overdose deaths occurring in Florida every year showcases how significant the bipartisan bill could be for drug users.
Also 'Marx invented [the word "capitalism"] to unfairly 'frame' the world he couldn't succeed in.' :lol:

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Post by Cunt » Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:32 pm

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:23 pm
Also 'Marx invented [the word "capitalism"] to unfairly 'frame' the world he couldn't succeed in.' :lol:
I appreciate that some folks might consider him a roaring success.

Communism is just begging and thieving, with better framing.
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Post by Cunt » Sun Apr 03, 2022 5:23 pm

Glen Greenwald responds to weepy, elite rich white person who was distressed by mean tweets.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/your-t ... tional?s=w
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The front-page reporter, Taylor Lorenz, recently ofThe New York Times and now The Washington Post, uses the skills she learned growing up in Old Greenwich, Connecticut and while being educated at Greenwich High School and absolutely lovely boarding schools in the Swiss Alps to express, on NBC News’ Meet the Press Daily, the trauma and victimization she endures from critics of her journalism: journalism which she has often weaponized to destroy the lives of many powerless people including teenagers, on April 1, 2022 (credit: MSNBC)
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Post by Cunt » Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:03 pm

If only there was SOME way that you guys could have known about this 2 years ago...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... reckoning/
For now, what’s more compelling than the assorted accusations about the Bidens’ behavior is this question: Why is confirmation of a story that first surfaced in the fall of 2020 emerging only now? When the New York Post published its blockbuster exclusive on the contents of a laptop said to have been abandoned at a Delaware repair shop by Hunter Biden, mainstream media organizations balked at running with the same narrative. Social media sites displayed even greater caution. Twitter blocked the story altogether, pointing to a policy against hacked materials, and suspended the New York Post’s account for sharing it; Facebook downranked the story in the algorithms that govern users’ news feeds for fear that it was based on misinformation. Now, The Washington Post and the New York Times have vouched for many of the relevant communications.
Who took the time to parrot the 'russian disinformation' line from the 50 former intelligence officials? (who didn't quite lie...)
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