All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Post by Animavore » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:23 am

The MAGA Teenager Who Harassed a Native American Veteran Is Still Unnamed, but We’ve Seen His Face Before
[He actually is named on social media]
The encounter between the teenager and the older man didn’t end in violence. They apparently didn’t even exchange words. Why, then, did this unexploded grenade of a moment read as so fundamentally disturbing—and spread so quickly? There’s the ahistorical idiocy of wearing a Make America Great Again hat while harassing a veteran, of course. There’s the physical contrast between the young white punk and the Native elder, and between the teen’s cruelty and Phillips’ calm. And there’s the crowd of hooting MAGA teens ringing the central conflict, bouncing along to the drumbeat with a mix of giddiness and scorn. (In a video posted to Instagram, a teary Phillips said he heard them chanting “build that wall.”) Cameras are everywhere in the crowd. The boys know they’re being recorded—some of them are even seen capturing the moment themselves—but either their homosocial glee is too orgiastic to be dampened by the instinct for self-protection, or they don’t think anyone who matters to them will care. (And yes: Where are the adults?)

The context is key to the clash’s virality, too. It took place just days after President Trump made light of the 1890 massacre at Wounded Knee to mock Sen. Elizabeth Warren, whom he often refers to by the racist nickname “Pocahontas.” More broadly, it takes place in an era in which chanting the president’s name has become a tool of racial intimidation.

But I think the real reason the clip has spread is simpler: It’s the kid’s face. The face of self-satisfaction and certitude, of edginess expressed as cruelty. The face remains almost completely still as his peers hoot in awed delight at his bravado. The face is both punchable and untouchable. Many observers recognized it right away.

The face is in this photo of a clutch of white young men crowding around a single black man at a lunch counter sit-in in Virginia in the 1960s, and in many other images of jeering white men from that era. The face is the rows of Wisconsin high school boys flashing Nazi salutes in a prom picture last year. The face is Brett Kavanaugh—then a student at an all-boys Catholic prep school—“drunkenly laughing” as he allegedly held down Christine Blasey Ford. Anyone who knew the popular white boys in high school recognized it: the confident gaze, the eyes twinkling with menace, the smirk. The face of a boy who is not as smart as he thinks he is, but is exactly as powerful. The face that sneers, “What? I’m just standing here,” if you flinch or cry or lash out. The face knows that no matter how you react, it wins.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Animavore » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:23 am

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Post by Cunt » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:24 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4O3ROg7O_M

Of course, there is more to the story.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:41 am

President Pence? That vision should terrify women
The news that Karen Pence is returning to work at an anti-gay Christian school should remind us of the vice-president’s dangerous bigotry

President Pence would turn America into The Handmaid’s Tale

Karen Pence is not just the wife of the US vice-president, she’s an empowered career woman in her own right. While her husband works tirelessly alongside Trump to make America white again, Karen Pence, it was announced this week, is returning to her old job teaching kids art.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by tattuchu » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:50 pm

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Post by Tero » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:15 pm

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:20 pm

Cunt wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:24 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4O3ROg7O_M

Of course, there is more to the story.
There might be, but that video doesn't show it. I spent some time looking for more information and couldn't find it. Do you have something other than this video?
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Post by Joe » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:43 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
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I know bin Laden thought I was responsible, but he thought a lot of crazy shit.

There's probably a liberal academic who thinks I am too. I'd like to read their arguments.
I remember that guy. Ward Churchill, a prof at UC Boulder, wrote an essay and caused a big stink when his rough draft surfaced on the internet.

This looks like the final draft. It's mercifully shorter.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:29 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:20 pm
Cunt wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:24 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4O3ROg7O_M

Of course, there is more to the story.
There might be, but that video doesn't show it. I spent some time looking for more information and couldn't find it. Do you have something other than this video?
It looked like the young folk were there already, and the old vet approached them to drum at them.

I doubt it matters to you, though. If it does, I mean, if something about the story might change your mind about something, it might be worth looking into, but I don't think this story is that important.

To me, it's just an example of how fiercely anti-Trump stories are pressed in the media.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:53 pm

Cunt wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:29 pm
Sean Hayden wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:20 pm
Cunt wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:24 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4O3ROg7O_M

Of course, there is more to the story.
There might be, but that video doesn't show it. I spent some time looking for more information and couldn't find it. Do you have something other than this video?
It looked like the young folk were there already, and the old vet approached them to drum at them.

I doubt it matters to you, though. If it does, I mean, if something about the story might change your mind about something, it might be worth looking into, but I don't think this story is that important.

To me, it's just an example of how fiercely anti-Trump stories are pressed in the media.
Hopefully it's not that important to either of us. I was just surprised that the video didn't show what the guys, and now you claimed it does. They mentioned having done their research so I wanted to know if you knew what they had found.

It's no big deal if you don't know.
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Post by Cunt » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:11 pm

I've seen a few more vids' showing the old vet approaching (it was pitched the other way around)

I've also read a letter from one of the schoolkids who were there. It will come out clearly that the media presented this in the opposite way it happened, so you can find it here if you like. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... ent-in-dc/

I was already convinced that many media sources are heavily left-leaning, and more than eager to shit on Trump. This doesn't change my mind because of that. If it was found that the kids really were there to harass, it WOULD change my mind about this instance of media bullshit.

But it isn't all that important in the grander scheme, you're right.

It is a pretty shit thing to do to a high school kid, though. Creeping into their face, getting too close and beating a drum. That old guy should be asked about his behaviour. This story being a lie won't track though...the retraction may be printed, but everyone will still think this kid is a racist fuck who was harassing a delicate old veteran.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:26 pm

Thanks Cunt. There is a much better video buried in there that does show a different story than what I've seen reported. It's somewhat scary to think that I could not find it on my own. I know bubbles exist for internet users, but this is unacceptable.

I shouldn't have to ask someone who frequents right-wing sources in order to find a more objective video!


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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:42 pm

Joe wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:43 pm
Sean Hayden wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:21 am
I know bin Laden thought I was responsible, but he thought a lot of crazy shit.

There's probably a liberal academic who thinks I am too. I'd like to read their arguments.
I remember that guy. Ward Churchill, a prof at UC Boulder, wrote an essay and caused a big stink when his rough draft surfaced on the internet.

This looks like the final draft. It's mercifully shorter.
Thanks Joe. I remember that. It's a tough read eh? He doesn't really make an argument for my being responsible other than to say knowing is the same as being responsible. I don't think that requires much of a rebuttal, do you?
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