Would A Successful Guy Fawkes Have Stopped Brexit?

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Would A Successful Guy Fawkes Have Stopped Brexit?

Post by cronus » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:16 am

Been reading a lot about how power is too centralized in the UK compared with most modern modern democratic states. If one Prime Minster could stop a massive economic catastrophe and refused on account of robotic thinking....should or could it make a difference to have someone else in power with more considered viewpoints? What is anarchy if it does not stand against the rigidity of power manifest and its consequences? Surely it is in the upmost interest of the peripheral regions of the UK that will suffer most following a hard Brexit to at least protest more, rather than waiting for a economic scorched earth policy to have arrive later?

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:37 am

Perhaps. It seems likely to me that it would have resulted in a less democratic Britain. The mass murder of Parliament by a group of Catholics would have certainly produced a strong backlash against Catholics. I don't think the further agenda of the plot (installing a Catholic monarch) would have succeeded. There were plenty of second sons who would have been only too happy to step up and reconstitute Parliament, with an agenda of retribution. The monarchy would have simply become a regency (with Henry or possibly Elizabeth or Charles as the new titular monarch) controlled by one of the remaining powerful Protestant nobles.

No Civil War, given the probability that the new Parliament would have worked hand in glove with the regent. The monarch, having grown up accustomed to being merely a figurehead, would on attaining majority have been ill suited to try to rule as an autocrat (per Charles I). The regent would be unlikely to simply step aside and so we have an earlier appearance of the Prime Minister, probably with even more power than Prime Ministers in the UK have developed in our own time line. A less democratic Britain wouldn't put something so important to the future of the country up for a referendum vote.

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Re: Would A Successful Guy Fawkes Have Stopped Brexit?

Post by cronus » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:05 am

Got to consider if anything happened to the Brexit deal, then Trumps confidence in his own manifest destiny, literally own manifest destiny, to be supreme leader of the US would have a damaged narrative...this would deeply be the interests of the American state.... :tea: :coffee:
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Re: Would A Successful Guy Fawkes Have Stopped Brexit?

Post by NineBerry » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:24 pm

If Guy Fawkes hadn't stopped to shit he would have exploded the parliament.

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Re: Would A Successful Guy Fawkes Have Stopped Brexit?

Post by JimC » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:35 am

Remember, remember, the Fifth of November
Gunpowder treason and plot
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Re: Would A Successful Guy Fawkes Have Stopped Brexit?

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:19 am

Celebrating the failure and subsequent execution of religious extremists is a fine tradition. :mob:

All extremists should be questioned, tortured and suffer the indignity of a public immolation. It's the only way they'll learn.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:12 am

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