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by pErvinalia » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:55 pm
Where to start?
I'll make a more detailed post when I'm on the PC. But the executive summary is:
Liberal Party imploding. Former PM and totally deluded fuckstick, Tony Abbott, is determined to bring the whole show crashing down. It would be monumental enough on its own, except that it's a direct rerun of the clusterfuck that Labor engaged in while they were last in government. The difference this time is that there's a likely impassable ideological split between the liberals and the conservatives in the so called "broad church" party.

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by Tyrannical » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:37 pm
Your political party names confuse me.
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by pErvinalia » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:26 pm
Science confuses you.
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by PsychoSerenity » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:22 pm
Anything that doesn't fit his malformed preconceptions confuses him.
Sorry, that's harsh. I'm being harsh today.
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by Brian Peacock » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:31 pm
Seems Mr Abbot wants to go full-Trump on yo Ozzie asses.
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by JimC » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:52 am
Far too much hysteria in such a saying.
"Make Australia at least vaguely reasonable again" would be a more realistic target...
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by Hermit » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:02 am
All fair dinkum Straians go for the more relaxed turn of phrase as a slogan: "She'll be right, mate.

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by pErvinalia » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:21 am
Liberals never a 'conservative' party: PM
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has sent a message to conservative members of his party, saying Sir Robert Menzies deliberately positioned the Liberal Party in the centre when he founded it in 1944.
'Menzies said: 'We took the name 'Liberal' because we were determined to be a progressive party, willing to make experiments, in no sense reactionary but believing in the individual, his right and his enterprise, and rejecting the socialist panacea',' Mr Turnbull said in a speech in London.
'The sensible centre was the place to be. It remains the place to be.'
Deputy Liberal leader Julie Bishop insists Mr Turnbull's speech shouldn't antagonise anyone in the party.
'It very eloquently articulates our values as the Liberal party,' she said on Tuesday.
'It is a historically accurate articulation of how the Liberal party gained its name.'
Ms Bishop said the tradition had continued in what John Howard called the party's 'broad church' and in what Mr Abbott referred to as 'the sensible centre'.
Cabinet minister Josh Frydenberg pointed out to critics of Mr Turnbull's address that the party just celebrated the anniversary of Menzies' Forgotten People speech.
'He made it very clear in that address that we were a party that didn't represent big business and big money,' he told Sky News.
He said the prime minister's characterisation of the Menzies approach and the party's philosophical underpinnings was 'absolutely right'.
New Liberal federal president Nick Greiner insists the party has not lost its way and agrees with Mr Turnbull that the centre is the place to be.
But he admits some current policies are conservative, citing the government's approach to immigration and some of its budget repair measures.
'I think in the real world the Australian public isn't all that ideologically pure. They actually want good government,' he told ABC radio.
Mr Greiner shot down some of Mr Abbott's latest policy pitches, including his plan to reform the Senate.
'If you look at Tony's five-point plan, most of that's never going to happen. I mean no one is going to reform the constitution with respect to the Senate.'
He conceded the interventions by Mr Abbott have contributed to the government's poor Newspoll results.
But former Liberal senator Cory Bernardi tweeted his thanks to Mr Turnbull for 'confirming why regular Aussies need to join (his new Australian Conservatives party)'.
Mr Turnbull said 'conservative' or 'left wing' labels were irrelevant in 2017.
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by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:33 am
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by pErvinalia » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:05 am
No, it's the federal government. The queensland and nsw conservatives probably dream of coal more than others as their states have massive deposits of the stuff.
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by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:42 pm
And the federal government is subsidising?
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by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:44 pm
"Wat is het een gezellig boel hier".
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by pErvinalia » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:37 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:And the federal government is subsidising?
Yep.
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by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:46 pm
What a weird country.
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