A ternary star system comprising a pulsar along with two white dwarfs may be able to shed light on the extreme edges of gravitation - the point at which General Relativity and Quantum Theory clash. I am looking forward to hearing what they find.
Triple Star System May Help Perfect Theory of Gravity
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Triple Star System May Help Perfect Theory of Gravity
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A ternary star system comprising a pulsar along with two white dwarfs may be able to shed light on the extreme edges of gravitation - the point at which General Relativity and Quantum Theory clash. I am looking forward to hearing what they find.
A ternary star system comprising a pulsar along with two white dwarfs may be able to shed light on the extreme edges of gravitation - the point at which General Relativity and Quantum Theory clash. I am looking forward to hearing what they find.
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Re: Triple Star System May Help Perfect Theory of Gravity
Even aside from general relativity and quantum theory, I gather that 3 body gravitational interactions are extremely complex. I have a memory of reading that they are essentially unstable, in the sense that chaotic effects can eventually come into play. This may, of course, take a long time...
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Re: Triple Star System May Help Perfect Theory of Gravity
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Re: Triple Star System May Help Perfect Theory of Gravity
Definitely. The "three body problem" is known to be unsolvable in general - ie. there is no stable, repeating trajectory for such a system.JimC wrote:Even aside from general relativity and quantum theory, I gather that 3 body gravitational interactions are extremely complex. I have a memory of reading that they are essentially unstable, in the sense that chaotic effects can eventually come into play. This may, of course, take a long time...
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Re: Triple Star System May Help Perfect Theory of Gravity
No natural one, this might be a interesting discovery.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Definitely. The "three body problem" is known to be unsolvable in general - ie. there is no stable, repeating trajectory for such a system.JimC wrote:Even aside from general relativity and quantum theory, I gather that 3 body gravitational interactions are extremely complex. I have a memory of reading that they are essentially unstable, in the sense that chaotic effects can eventually come into play. This may, of course, take a long time...
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Re: Triple Star System May Help Perfect Theory of Gravity
You're not saying aliens but.... ALIENS!Scrumple wrote:No natural one, this might be a interesting discovery.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Definitely. The "three body problem" is known to be unsolvable in general - ie. there is no stable, repeating trajectory for such a system.JimC wrote:Even aside from general relativity and quantum theory, I gather that 3 body gravitational interactions are extremely complex. I have a memory of reading that they are essentially unstable, in the sense that chaotic effects can eventually come into play. This may, of course, take a long time...
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Re: Triple Star System May Help Perfect Theory of Gravity
I'm saying if it shouldn't exist and it does exist it might be a product of computational intelligence. Having three stars supply a Dyson Sphere, invisble on account of size, is a sensible longterm strategy. One bulb goes and you've got two whilst looking for a new one.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:You're not saying aliens but.... ALIENS!Scrumple wrote:No natural one, this might be a interesting discovery.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Definitely. The "three body problem" is known to be unsolvable in general - ie. there is no stable, repeating trajectory for such a system.JimC wrote:Even aside from general relativity and quantum theory, I gather that 3 body gravitational interactions are extremely complex. I have a memory of reading that they are essentially unstable, in the sense that chaotic effects can eventually come into play. This may, of course, take a long time...
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Re: Triple Star System May Help Perfect Theory of Gravity
Nobody's saying it shouldn't exist, just that the orbits of the three bodies will necessarily be chaotic and unpredictable in the long-term.
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Re: Triple Star System May Help Perfect Theory of Gravity
I suspect that in the case of 2 of the objects in a tight orbit, with their system orbiting another body a fair way away, the time it takes for chaotic perturbations to arise might be fairly lengthy...Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Nobody's saying it shouldn't exist, just that the orbits of the three bodies will necessarily be chaotic and unpredictable in the long-term.
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Re: Triple Star System May Help Perfect Theory of Gravity
Why would the Theory be Perfect?
Is triple star a rating or something?
What about a four star rating, could that be better than perfect?
Is triple star a rating or something?
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Re: Triple Star System May Help Perfect Theory of Gravity
Pretty epic forces involved there.The pulsar's inner white-dwarf companion has an orbital period of less than two days, while the outer dwarf has a period of almost a year.
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Re: Triple Star System May Help Perfect Theory of Gravity
The pulsar rotates hundreds of times a second. This is why the system is important. Any fluctuation in the periodicity of the radio emissions due to gravitational forces should be (relatively) easy to spot.JimC wrote:I suspect that in the case of 2 of the objects in a tight orbit, with their system orbiting another body a fair way away, the time it takes for chaotic perturbations to arise might be fairly lengthy...Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Nobody's saying it shouldn't exist, just that the orbits of the three bodies will necessarily be chaotic and unpredictable in the long-term.
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