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Post by Lozzer » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:14 pm

Well that's just darn tootin. A paedophile was rightfully arrested the other day for possession of child porn. It was placed on my local newspaper's Facebook. Some stupid little girl had commented that he should receive capital punishment. Well, I defend the man's Human Rights, guess what, they accuse me of defending paedophilia. I repeat myself numerous times that I'm not and that I'm defending rules commissioned to protect all of humanity (including them).

I get told I know nothing because I've never had kids. Without kids I can't put myself in the position of an abused child. I can't put myself in the shoes of a parent either. I tell them I can understand how bad paedophilia is, and that I can sympathise with their fears. Guess what, they continue to indict me with being a heartless son of a bitch. I mentioned that I advocate the idea of incarceration re-education method or institutionalised medical health care for convicted paedophiles. Guess what, they then tell me I'm defending paedophilia again. They ignore me furthermore, they insult me, degrade me in their own conversations and almost commit slander!

Wow. Just fucking wow. And with the mentality of my towns citizens, I'm not going to hear the end of this. I've been told by friends that I've became Facebook worthy of hate statuses. My position has been completely misrepresented, my character has been severely misconstrued and a game of chinese-whispers is probably taking place right now. I have no doubt I'm going to be challenged in public. And considering the mindless vigilantism of a very 'patriotic' few, I'm going to get hurt.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:23 pm

Lozzer wrote:Well that's just darn tootin. A paedophile was rightfully arrested the other day for possession of child porn. It was placed on my local newspaper's Facebook. Some stupid little girl had commented that he should receive capital punishment. Well, I defend the man's Human Rights, guess what, they accuse me of defending paedophilia. I repeat myself numerous times that I'm not and that I'm defending rules commissioned to protect all of humanity (including them).

I get told I know nothing because I've never had kids. Without kids I can't put myself in the position of an abused child. I can't put myself in the shoes of a parent either. I tell them I can understand how bad paedophilia is, and that I can sympathise with their fears. Guess what, they continue to indict me with being a heartless son of a bitch. I mentioned that I advocate the idea of incarceration re-education method or institutionalised medical health care for convicted paedophiles. Guess what, they then tell me I'm defending paedophilia again. They ignore me furthermore, they insult me, degrade me in their own conversations and almost commit slander!

Wow. Just fucking wow. And with the mentality of my towns citizens, I'm not going to hear the end of this. I've been told by friends that I've became Facebook worthy of hate statuses. My position has been completely misrepresented, my character has been severely misconstrued and a game of chinese-whispers is probably taking place right now. I have no doubt I'm going to be challenged in public. And considering the mindless vigilantism of a very 'patriotic' few, I'm going to get hurt.
If they slander you on Facebook, you can report them and get their accounts closed. Although, if they know where you live, that might not be as much fun as it sounds. :dono:

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Post by Lozzer » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:25 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Lozzer wrote:Well that's just darn tootin. A paedophile was rightfully arrested the other day for possession of child porn. It was placed on my local newspaper's Facebook. Some stupid little girl had commented that he should receive capital punishment. Well, I defend the man's Human Rights, guess what, they accuse me of defending paedophilia. I repeat myself numerous times that I'm not and that I'm defending rules commissioned to protect all of humanity (including them).

I get told I know nothing because I've never had kids. Without kids I can't put myself in the position of an abused child. I can't put myself in the shoes of a parent either. I tell them I can understand how bad paedophilia is, and that I can sympathise with their fears. Guess what, they continue to indict me with being a heartless son of a bitch. I mentioned that I advocate the idea of incarceration re-education method or institutionalised medical health care for convicted paedophiles. Guess what, they then tell me I'm defending paedophilia again. They ignore me furthermore, they insult me, degrade me in their own conversations and almost commit slander!

Wow. Just fucking wow. And with the mentality of my towns citizens, I'm not going to hear the end of this. I've been told by friends that I've became Facebook worthy of hate statuses. My position has been completely misrepresented, my character has been severely misconstrued and a game of chinese-whispers is probably taking place right now. I have no doubt I'm going to be challenged in public. And considering the mindless vigilantism of a very 'patriotic' few, I'm going to get hurt.
If they slander you on Facebook, you can report them and get their accounts closed. Although, if they know where you live, that might not be as much fun as it sounds. :dono:

People can be cunts when their knees jerk.
Indeed.

This isn't a knee jerk reaction, this is a normal reaction for them at least. Sometimes I'm glad Thatcher stole their milk.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:38 pm

It's herd behaviour. They have been conditioned to see every adult male that comes into contact with children as a potential kiddy fiddler and whipped up into a feeding frenzy by the Daily Mail.

The fact that most paedophiles suffered sexual abuse as children themselves is conveniently forgotten - the thought of the 'poor, innocent victim' and the 'evil, depraved, drooling baby-rapist' being one and the same person, merely separated by a decade or two, is hastily denied by all and never to be discussed on any level. Sometimes I look at the regulars in an average pub and despair of democracy.
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Post by Lozzer » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:49 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:It's herd behaviour. They have been conditioned to see every adult male that comes into contact with children as a potential kiddy fiddler and whipped up into a feeding frenzy by the Daily Mail.

The fact that most paedophiles suffered sexual abuse as children themselves is conveniently forgotten - the thought of the 'poor, innocent victim' and the 'evil, depraved, drooling baby-rapist' being one and the same person, merely separated by a decade or two, is hastily denied by all and never to be discussed on any level. Sometimes I look at the regulars in an average pub and despair of democracy.

I know too well. But I'm 17, not 70. It is equally callous to accuse me so.

I've covered that before with these people, course they didn't get it. But I educated them a little. But when I defend their rights, I'm a bad guy.
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Post by Trinity » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:54 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:It's herd behaviour. They have been conditioned to see every adult male that comes into contact with children as a potential kiddy fiddler and whipped up into a feeding frenzy by the Daily Mail.

The fact that most paedophiles suffered sexual abuse as children themselves is conveniently forgotten - the thought of the 'poor, innocent victim' and the 'evil, depraved, drooling baby-rapist' being one and the same person, merely separated by a decade or two, is hastily denied by all and never to be discussed on any level. Sometimes I look at the regulars in an average pub and despair of democracy.
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Post by Trinity » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:57 pm

Lozzer wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:It's herd behaviour. They have been conditioned to see every adult male that comes into contact with children as a potential kiddy fiddler and whipped up into a feeding frenzy by the Daily Mail.

The fact that most paedophiles suffered sexual abuse as children themselves is conveniently forgotten - the thought of the 'poor, innocent victim' and the 'evil, depraved, drooling baby-rapist' being one and the same person, merely separated by a decade or two, is hastily denied by all and never to be discussed on any level. Sometimes I look at the regulars in an average pub and despair of democracy.

I know too well. But I'm 17, not 70. It is equally callous to accuse me so.

I've covered that before with these people, course they didn't get it. But I educated them a little. But when I defend their rights, I'm a bad guy.
I'm sorry to hear this Lozzer; some people are blind to anything but their own stories. If you seriously think you will be threatened, you could report this incident and it will be logged with the police. They won't do anything but it will be on record; you could always print off your dialogues from facebook as proof?
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Post by Animavore » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:59 pm

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Post by Lozzer » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:02 am

Trinity wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:It's herd behaviour. They have been conditioned to see every adult male that comes into contact with children as a potential kiddy fiddler and whipped up into a feeding frenzy by the Daily Mail.

The fact that most paedophiles suffered sexual abuse as children themselves is conveniently forgotten - the thought of the 'poor, innocent victim' and the 'evil, depraved, drooling baby-rapist' being one and the same person, merely separated by a decade or two, is hastily denied by all and never to be discussed on any level. Sometimes I look at the regulars in an average pub and despair of democracy.

I know too well. But I'm 17, not 70. It is equally callous to accuse me so.

I've covered that before with these people, course they didn't get it. But I educated them a little. But when I defend their rights, I'm a bad guy.
I'm sorry to hear this Lozzer; some people are blind to anything but their own stories. If you seriously think you will be threatened, you could report this incident and it will be logged with the police. They won't do anything but it will be on record; you could always print off your dialogues from facebook as proof?
No threats have been issued, but its more than likely I'll recieve some. I've already posted the dialogue on RDF
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:07 am

Lozzer wrote:
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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:It's herd behaviour. They have been conditioned to see every adult male that comes into contact with children as a potential kiddy fiddler and whipped up into a feeding frenzy by the Daily Mail.

The fact that most paedophiles suffered sexual abuse as children themselves is conveniently forgotten - the thought of the 'poor, innocent victim' and the 'evil, depraved, drooling baby-rapist' being one and the same person, merely separated by a decade or two, is hastily denied by all and never to be discussed on any level. Sometimes I look at the regulars in an average pub and despair of democracy.

I know too well. But I'm 17, not 70. It is equally callous to accuse me so.

I've covered that before with these people, course they didn't get it. But I educated them a little. But when I defend their rights, I'm a bad guy.
I'm sorry to hear this Lozzer; some people are blind to anything but their own stories. If you seriously think you will be threatened, you could report this incident and it will be logged with the police. They won't do anything but it will be on record; you could always print off your dialogues from facebook as proof?
No threats have been issued, but its more than likely I'll recieve some. I've already posted the dialogue on RDF
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Post by Lozzer » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:24 am

http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... 79&start=0

The first segment is on the first page and there's a second on the third.

Needless to say, I got the woman to apologise in the end.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:01 am

Lozzer wrote:http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... 79&start=0

The first segment is on the first page and there's a second on the third.

Needless to say, I got the woman to apologise in the end.
Very interesting conversation. You held your ground very well. I can't believe that dickhead thought you were a doctor just because you don't get your 'facts' from the Mail on Sunday editorial! :hehe:
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Post by Achtland » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:49 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Lozzer wrote:http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... 79&start=0

The first segment is on the first page and there's a second on the third.

Needless to say, I got the woman to apologise in the end.
Very interesting conversation. You held your ground very well. I can't believe that dickhead thought you were a doctor just because you don't get your 'facts' from the Mail on Sunday editorial! :hehe:
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Post by Lozzer » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:00 pm

Meanwhile, it just gets better!
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Claire Gilbert at 14:39 on 03 July
lozzer u freak i live next door to the pub and by the way he has not been imprisoned, try reading the paper properly. there is no excuse for sicko's like this he knew what he was doing. also there is speculation that he is on the register in germany as well. I say scum like this need shooting

tony gilbert says that how can you be a proffesional at 17? my wife has got a doctorate and there is no way you can get this at 17, perhaps you got yours from the internet.
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Claire Gilbert at 14:49 on 03 July
christine are you the lady that lives the other side of the pub?
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Lozzer Mcalindon at 14:52 on 03 July
Thank you for the Ad Hominem attack. As I have said, the man deserves to be imprisoned for what he did. He needs institutionalised healthcare in an environment where both justice and help are provided in equal measure. If I'm a 'freak' for advocating that, then that's fine with me, but in calling me so you're devaluing the word.

You need to stop ... Read morepainting people as evil, he's no more human than you are. You're not going to solve anything by dehumanising his life. Its all very well shooting people, but you don't teach them anything and nor do you undo the crimes committed. If you want revenge instead of justice, then perhaps you should take a walk into the middle ages.

Attempting to belittle my knowledge by trivialising my age isn't an argument. I've never once insisted that I had any authority on the subject. As I've already said, it only takes a reputable source.

Stupid is as stupid does, and this doesn't except illiterate lesbians who are married to doctors.
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Post by Lozzer » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:46 pm

Sometimes...just sometimes... :banghead:




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Jane Cook at 20:24 on 03 July
Lozzer a little knowledge can at times be very dangerous and how reputable is your reputable source as you cannot always trust what you read on the internet.
You also stated that you know too well the anguish victims of child abuse suffer
Pray tell us in more detail then we might be able to understand your side of the debate

Example, are you the abused or know an abuser??
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Lozzer Mcalindon at 20:45 on 03 July
Some very precise assertions there. Its true, you can't believe everything you read, but incredulity doesn't dismiss the facts.

I don't see why I'm obligated to share anything about my private life, but I'll answer you anyway/ No, I haven't been abused. Anguish is anguish, I can't relate to violations but I can relate to anguish. Presumably, ... Read moreeveryone else can here too, considering the amount of times I've been told that I know nothing.

But again--this is the second time I've had to repeat myself--if I had known, or had known, someone who had been abused or if Id been abused, then it still wouldn't falsify the validity of my arguments. There is justice, and then there is revenge. Acting out of sheer emotion isn't justice, its revenge. And if you want to supersede justice with revenge, then you can. But ultimately, you've broken the same Human Rights which you confiscated from the paedophiles originally.
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Lozzer Mcalindon at 20:48 on 03 July
No, I don't know any abusers. If I did, I would be obligated to report him/her to the police. He would be charged and he would receive a fair trial in a court of law and would serve his time in prison. Of course, that's not going to cure him. Hence why I advocate alternative measures. But perhaps one day there will be a cure. But you can't just go around killing people willy-nilly because you're unsatisfied with the current legal system.
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Shelley Bolland at 21:38 on 03 July
the dirty german cunt wants ta fuck off! dat was my local if i found out he were pervin on me. Den il make sure ur fukin dirty sex pub wont b in grantham nemore !!!
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Lozzer Mcalindon at 21:40 on 03 July
I think you prove my point perfectly.
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Pennie Gibbs at 21:41 on 03 July
what ya going to do the shelley?lol
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Pennie Gibbs at 21:42 on 03 July
sorry what wouldl you of done shelley? lol
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Shelley Bolland at 21:42 on 03 July
il blow his pub up aha x
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Shelley Bolland at 21:42 on 03 July
and make ure hes init aha
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